Trade Stubbs and Leake away if possible, bring in Josh Hamilton. OF would be Hamilton, Heisey, Bruce if that happened.
Lineup: 2B Phillips, CF/LF Heisey, Votto, LF/CF Hamilton, RF Bruce, 3B Frazier, SS Cozart, C Hanigan
That's my dream scenario but highly unlikely to happen. All depends on what happens with Luddy, Bailey, Leake, and Stubbs in the offseason. If they're not gonna play Heisey much more next year just trade him or something bc they're just wasting him IMO.
Oct 13, 2012 11:20am
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Sat, Oct 13, 2012 11:28 AMOct 13, 2012 11:28 AM
I want nothing to do with Josh Hamilton. There is a 0% chance they'd go after him anyway.
Oct 13, 2012 11:28am
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Sat, Oct 13, 2012 12:42 PMOct 13, 2012 12:42 PM
I can't say this is direct information, but it's from a decent source who is fairly well-connected with a few people who work in the Reds front-office staff.
Hamilton and the Reds had a tumultuous relationship. He was grateful for the opportunity they gave him and they really liked his passion and overcoming the odds story. However, he was NOT happy in Cincinnati and they were not happy with having to basically babysit him 24/7. I've heard a few stories about how it created a fracture in the clubhouse and he was basically operating on an island with his own schedule, training regimen and team rules. The trade to Texas was less about improving the team and more about trying to avoid an explosion. Not that he was going to go off the rails or quit on the Reds, but they got the sense that time was running out and that they had to get what they could while his value was decent. Volquez was NOT their first choice, in-fact, the Reds actually balked at even taking him because they felt he was a bad fit for GABP and had some injury concerns. Obviously the deal happened.
Bottom line. The Reds already have 90M+ committed to payroll and one of the top 10 prospects in baseball who plays CF. They couldn't afford Josh Hamilton and even if he would take 50% of what he will demand, the Reds still wouldn't pay him that. He would never consider the Reds either.
Oct 13, 2012 12:42pm
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Sat, Oct 13, 2012 1:23 PMOct 13, 2012 1:23 PM
Did they say why he wasn't happy here or if there were any other possible teams in play for him?
Oct 13, 2012 1:23pm
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Sat, Oct 13, 2012 1:25 PMOct 13, 2012 1:25 PM
I wouldn't want any part of Hamilton either. He's one test away from being gone forever.
Bourne would be awesome. But let's face the facts. They spent a lot of money last offseason. The team next year will be basically the same. Gotta hope guys improve.
Oct 13, 2012 1:25pm
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Mon, Oct 15, 2012 1:13 PMOct 15, 2012 1:13 PM
Reds & Dusty Baker agree to 2-yr Extension
Oct 15, 2012 1:13pm
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Mon, Oct 15, 2012 1:51 PMOct 15, 2012 1:51 PM
Jacoby needs to go. But they said its likely he's back. Terrible move
Midstate01;1295888 wrote:Jacoby needs to go. But they said its likely he's back. Terrible move
Not only is he a terrible coach but he's also a dick. I hate that fucking guy.
Oct 15, 2012 2:11pm
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Mon, Oct 15, 2012 2:15 PMOct 15, 2012 2:15 PM
justincredible;1295901 wrote:Not only is he a terrible coach but he's also a dick. I hate that fucking guy.
He killed your goal to be the Reds CF (re: the changing careers thread) that quickly?
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Mon, Oct 15, 2012 2:26 PMOct 15, 2012 2:26 PM
Heretic;1295903 wrote:He killed your goal to be the Reds CF (re: the changing careers thread) that quickly?
Yeah, he totally hurt my feels.
Oct 15, 2012 2:26pm
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Mon, Oct 15, 2012 2:44 PMOct 15, 2012 2:44 PM
Reds trade Drew Stubbs to the Royals for Lorenzo Cain!
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Oct 15, 2012 2:44pm
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Mon, Oct 15, 2012 2:45 PMOct 15, 2012 2:45 PM
Who? Ill take it!
Oct 15, 2012 2:45pm
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Mon, Oct 15, 2012 2:55 PMOct 15, 2012 2:55 PM
Ironman92;1295925 wrote:Reds trade Drew Stubbs to the Royals for Lorenzo Cain!
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If this isn't true, I will hunt you down, I will find you, and I WILL kill you.
Oct 15, 2012 2:55pm
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Mon, Oct 15, 2012 6:27 PMOct 15, 2012 6:27 PM
It's obviously not true. You can't make trades until after the World Series...
Oct 15, 2012 6:27pm
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Mon, Oct 15, 2012 8:36 PMOct 15, 2012 8:36 PM
Azubuike24;1296031 wrote:It's obviously not true. You can't make trades until after the World Series...
These cats are easy. Lol
Lorenzo Cain is the awesome CF that splits time for the Royals. Brewers had him and he dazzled against us making one of the best plays I've ever seen. The Royals have 3 guys that play CF that are possibly 3 of the top defensive CF in the game.....and Dyson may be the best.
I believe Cain is also a lefty....I bet the Royals would bite.
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Mon, Oct 15, 2012 8:42 PMOct 15, 2012 8:42 PM
Type in "Lorenzo Cain amazing catch"....it's worth it.