NLDS Cincinnati Reds vs San Francisco Giants...Game 4

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Oct 9, 2012 10:24 PM
Get out early...add on and finish this up.
Oct 9, 2012 10:24pm
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Oct 9, 2012 10:40 PM
Appears the Reds are holding a closed-door meeting as we speak to discuss a potential roster move. Ownership, front office and the coaching staff are in there.

The risk of replacing Cueto would make it a no-brainer that Mike Leake would start game 4 and also a potential game 4 of the NLCS. If not Cueto, it sounds like it's possible they roll with Sam LeCure in game 4, with Simon, Hoover and others available if needed. With a loss, massive pressure would be on Mat Latos to return in game 5 against Matt Cain yet again.
Oct 9, 2012 10:40pm
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Oct 9, 2012 10:48 PM
Azubuike24;1291551 wrote:Appears the Reds are holding a closed-door meeting as we speak to discuss a potential roster move. Ownership, front office and the coaching staff are in there.

The risk of replacing Cueto would make it a no-brainer that Mike Leake would start game 4 and also a potential game 4 of the NLCS. If not Cueto, it sounds like it's possible they roll with Sam LeCure in game 4, with Simon, Hoover and others available if needed. With a loss, massive pressure would be on Mat Latos to return in game 5 against Matt Cain yet again.

Latos can handle the game 5 pressure....not enough rest for him to go game 4.

Cairo DL with made up injury....replace him with Leake....if Cueto heals he can pitch the NLCS....you DL Cueto and he's unavailable for the NLCS.

IMO opinion...don't jump the gun. Start LeCure tomorrow...bring in Simon when he's spent....then Hoover or Dondo....if winnable use the Marshall/Chapman combo....if not save them also for game 5.
Oct 9, 2012 10:48pm
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Oct 9, 2012 10:50 PM
The good news is Zito is very beatable at GABP. They may very well be able to get away with that. Agreed, you can't deactivate Cueto. The goal is a title. You gotta get there first, but you won't win a series against STL or WAS without Cueto. Not happening. You have to risk keeping him around giving him another week to heal.

If it gets to 5, having to beat Cain again...not liking that.
Oct 9, 2012 10:50pm
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Oct 9, 2012 11:24 PM
Looks like Mike Leake in Game 4
Oct 9, 2012 11:24pm
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Oct 9, 2012 11:29 PM
Barry Zito career numbers vs the Reds:

3-5 record, 59 innings, 61 hits, 6.25 ERA, 1.54 WHIP, .265 BAA

Barry Zito career numbers at Great American Ballpark:

0-2 record, 31 innings, 32 hits, 6.10 ERA, 1.55 WHIP, .269 BAA
Oct 9, 2012 11:29pm
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Oct 9, 2012 11:43 PM
I wasn't sure about Leake starting but with the matchup against Zito, I feel fine with it, and hope Dusty starts Frazier and Heisey. Those two are fresh and I think there will be a lot of runs scored tomorrow.
Oct 9, 2012 11:43pm
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Oct 10, 2012 12:07 AM
Whole lot of over reaction from this game. Fellas, we have to win 1 out of 3 against the Giants, at GABP.

And Barry Zito is starting the next game.

This is Jocketty wanting a little extra revenue for the extra home game.
Oct 10, 2012 12:07am
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Oct 10, 2012 5:41 AM
Ironman92;1291558 wrote:Cairo DL with made up injury....replace him with Leake.
Must replace a pitcher with a pitcher, according to Jim Day.
Oct 10, 2012 5:41am
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Oct 10, 2012 7:14 AM
TedSheckler;1291637 wrote:Must replace a pitcher with a pitcher, according to Jim Day.

This is correct
Oct 10, 2012 7:14am
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Oct 10, 2012 8:02 AM
We need to beat zito. I really don't like the idea of facing Cain again.
Oct 10, 2012 8:02am
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Oct 10, 2012 10:16 AM
Mike Leake is starting Game 4... Instantly became a little worried all of a sudden
Oct 10, 2012 10:16am
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Oct 10, 2012 10:30 AM
osu45804;1291714 wrote:Mike Leake is starting Game 4... Instantly became a little worried all of a sudden
I was worried as soon as we lost last night, knowing our pitching situation. Wasn't comfortable with Latos going on 3 days rest, and I'm not comfortable with the alternative. I believe Leake had a very good game against the Giants earlier in the year though, so here's hoping for a repeat performance!
Oct 10, 2012 10:30am
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Oct 10, 2012 10:42 AM
Well the giants offense blows so I think Leake will be able to give us a solid 7 and give up about 3. I think we'll be tied at 3 when the bullpens take over and we win on a walk off. We NEED this win!!!
Oct 10, 2012 10:42am
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Oct 10, 2012 11:54 AM
Why did the Reds choose Mike Leake to replace the injured Johnny Cueto? He's 3-0 with a 0.77 ERA in his last 3 starts vs the Giants.
Oct 10, 2012 11:54am
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Oct 10, 2012 12:38 PM
Frazier in the lineup today! He needs to play well and take rolens spot for the rest of the playoffs.
Oct 10, 2012 12:38pm
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Oct 10, 2012 12:41 PM
Game 4 Lineup

Phillips 4
Cozart 6
Votto 3
Ludwick 7
Bruce 9
Frazier 5
Navarro 2
Stubbs 8
Leake 1
Oct 10, 2012 12:41pm
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Oct 10, 2012 1:20 PM
Giants lineup today averages .397 off leake in his career.
Oct 10, 2012 1:20pm
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Oct 10, 2012 1:20 PM
osu45804;1291902 wrote:Game 4 Lineup

Phillips 4
Cozart 6
Votto 3
Ludwick 7
Bruce 9
Frazier 5
Navarro 2
Stubbs 8
Leake 1
Still w/ Stubbs....smh.
Oct 10, 2012 1:20pm
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Oct 10, 2012 2:00 PM
Reds lose 6-4.

I'll be there for this one, can't freaking wait. If the Reds win shit will get cray downtown.
Oct 10, 2012 2:00pm
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Oct 10, 2012 2:23 PM
Hope leake can Steal a win today. Lol
Oct 10, 2012 2:23pm
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Oct 10, 2012 2:34 PM
Hoping for at least 6 Innings from Leake & no more than 2 Runs with hopefully our offense showing back up
Oct 10, 2012 2:34pm
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Oct 10, 2012 2:58 PM
I think Bruce and BP continue to play well and Votto has a big game. Reds WIN 6-4.
Oct 10, 2012 2:58pm
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Oct 10, 2012 4:02 PM
FUCKING Leake....
Oct 10, 2012 4:02pm
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Oct 10, 2012 4:03 PM
55F must not be cool enough for Leake to keep it inside the park!
Oct 10, 2012 4:03pm