Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Mar 16, 2013 10:30pm
Mulva;1407098 wrote:Haha, not a good finish. Horrible pass by SFA.
But a great heads up play to just throw the ball up at the end.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Mar 16, 2013 10:35pm
The #1 seeds are set.
Gonzaga
Louisville
Indiana
Kansas
Gonzaga
Louisville
Indiana
Kansas
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 16, 2013 10:44pm
I still remember the awful disrespect by Verne Lundquist when Northwestern State hit that 3 over Iowa.
"Northwestern wins. Northwestern wins." Forgot the "State", dumbass.
"Northwestern wins. Northwestern wins." Forgot the "State", dumbass.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Mar 16, 2013 10:45pm
Weber St got hosed with 1:15 left down two....top scorer fouls out on a bad charge call. Defensive player gave a big big flop.
dazedconfused
Posts: 2,662
Mar 16, 2013 10:45pm
you think louisville did enough to unseat indiana out of indianapolis?Ironman92;1407101 wrote:The #1 seeds are set.
Gonzaga
Louisville
Indiana
Kansas
reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
Mar 16, 2013 10:45pm
Agreed. You could make the argument for Miami, I guess, but KU has more wins (13) against projected NCAA teams than any other team in the country and Miami slipped up more times against teams it shouldn't have.Ironman92;1407101 wrote:The #1 seeds are set.
Gonzaga
Louisville
Indiana
Kansas
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Mar 16, 2013 10:48pm
dazedconfused;1407106 wrote:you think louisville did enough to unseat indiana out of indianapolis?
The Big East gets the sexy love...especially their tournament, but IMO Indiana earned more over the season in the ridiculous B1G, but if the two paired up I'd go with Louisville because sleeper sucks.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 16, 2013 10:59pm
I think Louisville may have taken over the #1 overall seed. They might end up in Lexington and Indianapolis. Given how starved that fan base and program is for some recognition, they just might end up having about as favorable path as anyone. Lexington, Indianapolis and Atlanta.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Mar 16, 2013 11:03pm
Honestly, no. But I am sweating it out now...dazedconfused;1407106 wrote:you think louisville did enough to unseat indiana out of indianapolis?
Makes more sense for LVille to go East than IU though. They play in the Big East..
reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
Mar 16, 2013 11:12pm
The Ohio State fans here would obviously want Indiana shipped to D.C. so that the Buckeyes can go to Indy for the regionals.
If Miami wins the ACC tomorrow, I imagine the preferred location for the two-seeded Hurricanes would geographically be in D.C, which I think would send Duke to the Midwest (if Indiana gets the one seed in the Midwest and Ohio State gets shipped elsewhere).
If Duke is able to pull a 1980 U.S. Hockey and win two games and get to Indy, that'd be great. That's a short car drive for me.
If Miami wins the ACC tomorrow, I imagine the preferred location for the two-seeded Hurricanes would geographically be in D.C, which I think would send Duke to the Midwest (if Indiana gets the one seed in the Midwest and Ohio State gets shipped elsewhere).
If Duke is able to pull a 1980 U.S. Hockey and win two games and get to Indy, that'd be great. That's a short car drive for me.
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Mar 16, 2013 11:14pm
reclegend22;1407121 wrote:The Ohio State fans here would obviously want Indiana shipped to D.C. so that the Buckeyes can go to Indy for the regionals. If Miami wins the ACC tomorrow, I imagine the preferred location for Hurricanes would geographically be in D.C, which I think would send Duke to the Midwest.
If Duke is able to pull a 1980 U.S. Hockey and win two games and get to Indy, that'd be great. That's a short car drive for me.
That would be great. Would love to be the #2 in the Midwest with Louisville the #1.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Mar 16, 2013 11:14pm
reclegend22;1407121 wrote:The Ohio State fans here would obviously want Indiana shipped to D.C. so that the Buckeyes can go to Indy for the regionals.
If Miami wins the ACC tomorrow, I imagine the preferred location for the Hurricanes would geographically be in D.C, which I think would send Duke to the Midwest (if Indiana gets the one seed in the Midwest and Ohio State gets shipped elsewhere).
If Duke is able to pull a 1980 U.S. Hockey and win two games and get to Indy, that'd be great. That's a short car drive for me.
Osu is going west I think dayton for first round, then LA. Lots of alymni in California and could be weakest region.
reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
Mar 16, 2013 11:20pm
While I agree that the West will most likely be the weakest region -- at least in terms of the top seed -- I would think that OSU would want to say at home in Big Ten country in Indy, no? Ohio State fans travel well and I can't imagine that Louisville, even though it's not that far from Indiana, would have more fans than the Buckeyes in a game being played in a bordering state.Midstate01;1407123 wrote:Osu is going west I think dayton for first round, then LA. Lots of alymni in California and could be weakest region.
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birddog23
Posts: 1,086
Mar 16, 2013 11:21pm
Has anybody listened to Bill Walton call the Pac-12 tourney this week?
reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
Mar 16, 2013 11:25pm
Bill Walton has been at the top of his game this week at the Pac-12 Tournament. His hyperbole is hyperbole. It's great. I'm pretty sure at one point he compared his weekend at the Pac-12 Tournament to his birth.
As for the NCAAs, I am predicting now that Indiana and Duke are the 1 and 2 seeds in the Midwest. Mark it down. Duke will not make it that far -- not sure about Indiana -- but that will be the committee's hope. A rematch from 2002.
As for the NCAAs, I am predicting now that Indiana and Duke are the 1 and 2 seeds in the Midwest. Mark it down. Duke will not make it that far -- not sure about Indiana -- but that will be the committee's hope. A rematch from 2002.
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Mar 16, 2013 11:26pm
birddog23;1407132 wrote:Has anybody listened to Bill Walton call the Pac-12 tourney this week?
I'm listening right now but haven't watched any other games. One of my all time favorites.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Mar 16, 2013 11:26pm
TERRIBLE call. That's an and 1.
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Mar 16, 2013 11:28pm
That was an awful charge call. They love to call charges way too much.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Mar 16, 2013 11:36pm
I just dont see LVille getting the Midwest for a few reasons.
1. Not sure their resume is better. I know the DEEPER you go, it might be. Like top 50 wins. But go top 25 wins and you have a 7-4 advantage for IU. IU won a better conference outright in the Reg. Season. Does LVille have a single road win better than OSU/MSU/Michigan? IU won at all those places, and Kansas is the only other team to do so. The rest of the country I think went 0-50 (If I remember correctly) at those venues combined. @ Cuse is their best...
2. Even if both are viewed as 1a and 1b, I think geographically it makes more sense for LVille to go East where they have a better following than Indy. $$$ wise and fan support wise.
3. IU has been viewed as the #1 in the Midwest for weeks. The committee weights the conference tourneys heavily, but is a loss to Wisconsin enough to unseed them?
1. Not sure their resume is better. I know the DEEPER you go, it might be. Like top 50 wins. But go top 25 wins and you have a 7-4 advantage for IU. IU won a better conference outright in the Reg. Season. Does LVille have a single road win better than OSU/MSU/Michigan? IU won at all those places, and Kansas is the only other team to do so. The rest of the country I think went 0-50 (If I remember correctly) at those venues combined. @ Cuse is their best...
2. Even if both are viewed as 1a and 1b, I think geographically it makes more sense for LVille to go East where they have a better following than Indy. $$$ wise and fan support wise.
3. IU has been viewed as the #1 in the Midwest for weeks. The committee weights the conference tourneys heavily, but is a loss to Wisconsin enough to unseed them?
reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
Mar 16, 2013 11:56pm
I think that IU to the Midwest is what will happen, but if Louisville does get the number one overall seed, I would certainly think that geographically that Indianapolis would be a much better fit for Louisville than D.C. It has a great fan following and that would be a relatively short drive for the Cardinals faithful. Probably 100 miles tops, versus an eight or nine-hour drive to the coast. Maybe somebody with a globe can provide more in-depth analysis.
I want Duke in the Midwest as a two seed so I am hoping that Indiana gets Indy so I can (potentially) watch them.
I want Duke in the Midwest as a two seed so I am hoping that Indiana gets Indy so I can (potentially) watch them.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Mar 16, 2013 11:58pm
Laley23;1407143 wrote:I just dont see LVille getting the Midwest for a few reasons.
1. Not sure their resume is better. I know the DEEPER you go, it might be. Like top 50 wins. But go top 25 wins and you have a 7-4 advantage for IU. IU won a better conference outright in the Reg. Season. Does LVille have a single road win better than OSU/MSU/Michigan? IU won at all those places, and Kansas is the only other team to do so. The rest of the country I think went 0-50 (If I remember correctly) at those venues combined. @ Cuse is their best...
2. Even if both are viewed as 1a and 1b, I think geographically it makes more sense for LVille to go East where they have a better following than Indy. $$$ wise and fan support wise.
3. IU has been viewed as the #1 in the Midwest for weeks. The committee weights the conference tourneys heavily, but is a loss to Wisconsin enough to unseed them?
Joey Brackets now has Louisville as the overall #1. Obviously not the end all be all, but he's usually more accurate than not.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Mar 17, 2013 1:23am
I, for one, would love to be out West with Gonzaga!reclegend22;1407131 wrote:While I agree that the West will most likely be the weakest region -- at least in terms of the top seed -- I would think that OSU would want to say at home in Big Ten country in Indy, no? Ohio State fans travel well and I can't imagine that Louisville, even though it's not that far from Indiana, would have more fans than the Buckeyes in a game being played in a bordering state.
Cleveland Buck
Posts: 5,126
Mar 17, 2013 3:48am
I would have Indiana as the #1 overall. The quality of their best wins is superior, even if Louisville played a few more 50-100 RPI teams. Indiana's 7 best wins are ranked 8, 8, 9, 11, 16, 18, 18 in the RPI, where Louisville's are ranked 12, 13, 14, 35, 36, 36, 43. Indiana's worst loss was to the #38 RPI, where Louisville's was to the #52.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Mar 17, 2013 7:26am
This.Cleveland Buck;1407188 wrote:I would have Indiana as the #1 overall. The quality of their best wins is superior, even if Louisville played a few more 50-100 RPI teams. Indiana's 7 best wins are ranked 8, 8, 9, 11, 16, 18, 18 in the RPI, where Louisville's are ranked 12, 13, 14, 35, 36, 36, 43. Indiana's worst loss was to the #38 RPI, where Louisville's was to the #52.
reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
Mar 17, 2013 9:30am
Depending on how much emphasis the selection committee puts on conference tournament performance, recency bias might come into play today and that favors Louisville as the #1 overall.
It will be a tight race. If Gonzaga gets it, which I think there is almost no chance of, it will be a disgrace.
It will be a tight race. If Gonzaga gets it, which I think there is almost no chance of, it will be a disgrace.