Haha i knew you were up and couldn't resist the spectacularly awfulness of that gameLaley23;1393441 wrote:Thank God thats over. Good win for KU though. Loss mightve dropped them to the 3 seed line.
I showered and came back with a KU timeout down 1. Only saw the Tharpe GW and the OKST miss.SportsAndLady;1393444 wrote:Haha i knew you were up and couldn't resist the spectacularly awfulness of that game
karen lotz;1393429 wrote:Bill Self step and slide dot gif
Laley23;1393445 wrote:I showered and came back with a KU timeout down 1. Only saw the Tharpe GW and the OKST miss.
This is the best part of tonights game...
http://gifsound.com/?gif=http://cdn2.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/BILL-SELF-HAMMERTIME.gif&sound=http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dz5X5zh00rdg&start=3
This, but with sound (if you click link)
Yeah, it was too obvious that would be up all over the internet within minutes. But I love the "Cant Touch This" addition.karen lotz;1393446 wrote:thank you sir
Good post. I think you nailed it in that first paragraph. As for the second paragraph, I think I would have agreed with that viewpoint in the 1990s, when the ACC regular-season was still played as a true round-robin of 16 games with nine teams. With the random, unbalanced schedule in the ACC today, wherein certain years some teams have considerably easier paths to success by not having to play an upper-tier team (or two) on the road, whereas other teams might have to play those upper-tier teams on the road or both home and away, the regular-season has just lost some of the legitimacy that it once had. That's another reason why I prefer to crown the champion in the tournament.ironman02;1393232 wrote:rec,
On a subconscious level, I think you may be right. Carolina has finished first in the ACC Regular Season standings 29 times to Duke's 19, while Duke holds a 19-17 advantage in ACC Tournament championships. It's probably in our nature to favor those instances in which our respective team has an advantage.
I also appreciate the history of the conference, and I actually like the fact that the ACCT champion is recognized as THE champion for that season. However, I do still think that the team that has proven itself to be the "top" team in the conference over an 18-game schedule deserves some recognition. As far as I know, that does happen. We really don't disagree on anything other than the fact that the regular season means more than "nothing". To each his own.
While the ACC is not at its peak level compared to glory years, it isn't even comparable to the WCC. Gonzaga would have a difficult time navigating the treacherous beast that is road play in the ACC.Laley23;1393546 wrote:Gonzaga will and should get a #1 imo. Overall, the conference isnt hard at all. But OOC they did more than Miami who is going to get a 1. Miami -- injuries I know -- have some bad losses. The ACC is bad this year, so their only wins at this point are Duke and NCST. I expect them to lose to Duke second time around. There is nothing about the Pac-12 and Gonazaga that would make me think they finish 5th...
They might get it, but do they actually deserve it? That was my contention, and I don't believe so. They will get beaten before or at the Sweet 16.Azubuike24;1393534 wrote:The Zags get a #1 if they win out. Like Prescott said. Their 2 losses, Butler and Illinois aren't bad at all. The Butler loss was almost a fluke. They could finish 31-2 and in a season where nobody else is going to have less than 5 losses, they are gonna get a #1.
I tend to agree with this.Prescott;1393532 wrote:[Gonzaga] will get the #1 seed by default. The teams that could and probably should supplant the Zags will lose at least one more game.
Laley23;1393546 wrote:Gonzaga will and should get a #1 imo. Overall, the conference isnt hard at all. But OOC they did more than Miami who is going to get a 1. Miami -- injuries I know -- have some bad losses. The ACC is bad this year, so their only wins at this point are Duke and NCST. I expect them to lose to Duke second time around. There is nothing about the Pac-12 and Gonazaga that would make me think they finish 5th...
Even throwing in UNC, Gonzaga has better wins overall coupled with no bad losses, imo.wildcats20;1393574 wrote:2 wins against Carolina, the 24th ranked RPI team, are nothing.
Laley23;1393585 wrote:Even throwing in UNC, Gonzaga has better wins overall coupled with no bad losses, imo.
The question will be who deserves it more than the Zags.We can debate this when the time comes, but right now I think the Zags deserve a #1 seed. That being said, I would love to see the Zags as a #1 seed in the West(They usually get sent away ) and OSU as a #5 or #6 seed in the West.reclegend22;1393562 wrote:They might get it, but do they actually deserve it? That was my contention, and I don't believe so. They will get beaten before or at the Sweet 16.
That is simply not a team that is heading to the Final Four. Quite frankly, I don't believe in Mark Few in a do or die situation.
