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Elliot Stabler

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Dec 19, 2009 9:38 PM
If you hear of any teams looking to come into I-A when the moratorium ends,post them here

One that I know of is Cal Poly


I believe that I have heard Villanova,Montana,and Appy State are also looking to join
Dec 19, 2009 9:38pm
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Elliot Stabler

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Dec 19, 2009 9:54 PM
Depends which conference they join

Villanova is rumored to join the MAC

Montana is rumored to join the MWC

Appy State is rumored to join the Sun Belt
Dec 19, 2009 9:54pm
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Little Danny

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Dec 19, 2009 10:13 PM
Villanova is not looking to join the FBS/DIA division. Nova is a very small school and does not ahve the resources to make the jump. Heck their football stadium only seats 12,000 people. If I recall you have to average attendance of 20-25,000 to even keep your status in FBS/DIA.
Dec 19, 2009 10:13pm
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Elliot Stabler

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Dec 19, 2009 10:20 PM
That's just what I've heard
Dec 19, 2009 10:20pm
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Little Danny

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Dec 19, 2009 10:29 PM
I think Charlotte (Former known as UNC-Charlotte) is making the jump either next year or the year after.
Dec 19, 2009 10:29pm
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Elliot Stabler

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Dec 19, 2009 10:30 PM
I didn't even know they had a team
Dec 19, 2009 10:30pm
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Red_Skin_Pride

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Dec 19, 2009 10:32 PM
Appalachian State would contend almost immediately for the conference if they go to the Sun Belt.
Dec 19, 2009 10:32pm
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osu99

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Dec 19, 2009 10:34 PM
Little Danny wrote: I think Charlotte (Former known as UNC-Charlotte) is making the jump either next year or the year after.
UNC Charlotte will be starting a football team in the next couple years. They have no team at the moment.
Dec 19, 2009 10:34pm
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jordo212000

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Dec 19, 2009 10:39 PM
App State is selling themselves short on the Sun Belt. Not sure where else they'd fit in, but that is a bad conference
Dec 19, 2009 10:39pm
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Elliot Stabler

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Dec 19, 2009 10:44 PM
I was thinking BIg East maybe
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OldDanTucker

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Dec 19, 2009 10:48 PM
C-USA would be a good fit for Appy St. they would be tough even in that Conf IMO
Dec 19, 2009 10:48pm
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darbypitcher22

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Dec 19, 2009 10:55 PM
Appy St. would be able to contend.... not so sure about the others you mentioned.... at least contend immediately...
Dec 19, 2009 10:55pm
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Little Danny

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Dec 19, 2009 11:05 PM
osu99 wrote:
Little Danny wrote: I think Charlotte (Former known as UNC-Charlotte) is making the jump either next year or the year after.
UNC Charlotte will be starting a football team in the next couple years. They have no team at the moment.

Correct. However from what I have read I thought their plan was to start the team and then make a rapid move to the Bowl Championship Division (like South Florida did).
Dec 19, 2009 11:05pm
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Al Bundy

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Dec 19, 2009 11:36 PM
Little Danny wrote: Villanova is not looking to join the FBS/DIA division. Nova is a very small school and does not ahve the resources to make the jump. Heck their football stadium only seats 12,000 people. If I recall you have to average attendance of 20-25,000 to even keep your status in FBS/DIA.
I think you have seat that many, not have that many for average attendance. If you had to average that many Kent and Akron would have a hard time staying D1A.
Dec 19, 2009 11:36pm
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Dec 20, 2009 12:38 AM
There's ways around it. Once you get accepted into a conference, you're basically protected from ever being forced out of the FBS. And one way to 'boost' your attendance is to play a 'home' game in a big stadium near your opponent.

For instance, Villanova could play Penn State at Lincoln Financial. Appy State could play Tennessee at Charlotte. Montana could play a 'home' game in Denver against Colorado, etc. That all counts towards your average. Just like when Idaho played seven miles away in Pullman, WA (at WSU) to help boost their average. Once they were accepted into a conference, they moved back to their tiny Kibbie Dome.

But, I agree, why leave where you can play for a title? Not everyone becomes a Boise State. Many become a Ball State or Buffalo.

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Dec 20, 2009 12:38am
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Dec 20, 2009 2:49 AM
Texas State and App State are both looking to make the move, and both can easily meet the attendance requiremnts. I have also heard Massachusetts has been talking, but it may be dead in the water now.
Dec 20, 2009 2:49am
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grass_licker

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Dec 20, 2009 11:01 AM
i think youngstown ursuline irish h.s. should since they recruit better than all these schools but theyll probably stay d5, LOL
Dec 20, 2009 11:01am
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DaBrowns41

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Dec 20, 2009 11:04 AM
I'm still waiting for this source.

It's quite annoying when you get people that say "It's just what I've heard".

Two years ago "I heard" that Derek Anderson was going to be a top 5 QB in the league in 2008.
Dec 20, 2009 11:04am
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jordo212000

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Dec 20, 2009 5:29 PM
DaBrowns41 wrote: I'm still waiting for this source.

It's quite annoying when you get people that say "It's just what I've heard".
Its a message board, man
Dec 20, 2009 5:29pm
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Dec 20, 2009 6:37 PM
I know Georgia Southern and UT-San Antonio are starting programs but I think they are starting in FCS. UTSA has Larry Coker as their first head coach and will play in the Alamo Dome which could ease the transition to FBS if they get enough of a fan base.
Dec 20, 2009 6:37pm
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enigmaax

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Dec 20, 2009 7:47 PM
jordo212000 wrote: App State is selling themselves short on the Sun Belt. Not sure where else they'd fit in, but that is a bad conference
They are selling themselves short because of their record:

12-25 vs. all current FBS teams
7-21 if you consider that Marshall was I-AA for all of the games between the two
2-15 if you consider that Wake Forest was a bottom feeder every time Appy State beat them

But if you are ready to say they are better than the Sun Belt because they have one upset over Michigan, split with (Sun Belt's Troy), and winless against the rest of the division, including games against (Sun Belt's) Middle Tennessee State, Wyoming, and Hawaii, then.....okay.
Dec 20, 2009 7:47pm
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enigmaax

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Dec 20, 2009 7:48 PM
mucalum49 wrote: I know Georgia Southern and UT-San Antonio are starting programs but I think they are starting in FCS. UTSA has Larry Coker as their first head coach and will play in the Alamo Dome which could ease the transition to FBS if they get enough of a fan base.
Georgia Southern has been around for a long time and won several FCS/I-AA titles.
Dec 20, 2009 7:48pm
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mucalum49

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Dec 20, 2009 10:38 PM
enigmaax wrote:
mucalum49 wrote: I know Georgia Southern and UT-San Antonio are starting programs but I think they are starting in FCS. UTSA has Larry Coker as their first head coach and will play in the Alamo Dome which could ease the transition to FBS if they get enough of a fan base.
Georgia Southern has been around for a long time and won several FCS/I-AA titles.
My mistake, I meant Georgia State
Dec 20, 2009 10:38pm
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Dec 20, 2009 11:12 PM
enigmaax wrote:
jordo212000 wrote: App State is selling themselves short on the Sun Belt. Not sure where else they'd fit in, but that is a bad conference
They are selling themselves short because of their record:

12-25 vs. all current FBS teams
7-21 if you consider that Marshall was I-AA for all of the games between the two
2-15 if you consider that Wake Forest was a bottom feeder every time Appy State beat them

But if you are ready to say they are better than the Sun Belt because they have one upset over Michigan, split with (Sun Belt's Troy), and winless against the rest of the division, including games against (Sun Belt's) Middle Tennessee State, Wyoming, and Hawaii, then.....okay.
App state consistently contends for the I-AA National Title, and no program has ever made the jump because they have a huge winning record against teams who are in I-A. They make the jump pretty much knowing that they are going to suck for a long time, but they will eventually once again contend.

The last four teams to make the jump were:

Western Kentucky
Florida International
Florida Atlantic
Uconn

All of these teams have struggled.

Western Kentucky has been playing for two years now and didn't win a game this year. They didn't make the jump because they were winning before.
Dec 20, 2009 11:12pm
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jordo212000

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Dec 20, 2009 11:14 PM
My point wasn't that I thought that App St. could make it in the Big 10 or Big East, it was just that signing up for the Sun Belt would be stupid. I'd rather be independent then play in that garbage of a conference
Dec 20, 2009 11:14pm