Ironman92;1330112 wrote:Did they? I thought they were above .500 his second year?

When is Kyrie coming back?

Commander of Awesome;1330395 wrote:The teams that will want Varejao don't have the ammo to give the Cavs in trade to replace the loss. We'd want a high draft pick for him, and the Pistons/Wizards aren't traded a first rounder for him. We don't want an aging player and we don't need the cap relief. Doubt he's traded.

Commander of Awesome;1330410 wrote:Yeah, I even mentioned them earlier in the season (after the first game I belive). Its up to them on if they want to deal that for him. My guess is they don't.

Crimson streak;1330438 wrote:Yeah agree unless Perkins gets hurt or something

Pick6;1330099 wrote:Cavs need to trade him yesterday.

Heretic;1330452 wrote:In other words:

1. Play OKC
2. Have someone worthless like Walton dive into Perkins' legs.
3. Offer Andy in a trade for that pick.

like_that;1330460 wrote:Agreed. Complete the trade while they are on court too. Andy can switch jerseys at halftime.

Commander of Awesome;1330477 wrote:F4F says that's against the NBA rule book. Rule 14, art 5.1 paragraph 2d

lhslep134;1330459 wrote:I cannot articulate how much I disagree. There is no, IMO, possibility of us getting an equal return for his value to our team.

http://www.cavstheblog.com/?p=14046

Commander of Awesome;1330486 wrote:I'm only in favor of trading Andy for a top 5 pick. Can't get that than I don't want to trade him.

Pick6;1330487 wrote:Considering its impossible to tell whether or not you are getting a top 5 pick up until almost the draft, what caliber of player(s) would you accept in a trade?

dazedconfused;1330493 wrote:oklahoma city for toronto's first round pick would probably be the only decent value out there

Pick6;1330484 wrote:He isnt in the long-term plan for the team.

Commander of Awesome;1330486 wrote:I'm only in favor of trading Andy for a top 5 pick. Can't get that than I don't want to trade him.

gport_tennis;1330494 wrote:Not enough

lhslep134;1330528 wrote:You clearly didn't read that article then. Read it, and then try and attempt to tell me why he wouldn't be in the long term plan.

Pick6;1330552 wrote:I read it, its ALL opinion. The blogger thinks the aging, injury prone player will have a long career at a high level, I happen to disagree.

lhslep134;1330553 wrote:K, cuz that never happened with Z...

Pick6;1330552 wrote:

But I do agree, he is undervalued, and I do not want him traded unless we get what our FO would consider fair-value.

Pick6;1330561 wrote:For every Z there is a Yao, Oden, Roy, Bill Walton, Alan Houston, etc.

Nothing about his style of play made someone go Tonya Harding bodyguard on his wrist during a routine rebound. Guys that are “injury prone” are guys with degenerative bodies. Think of Brandon Roy, Greg Oden, or even Z before Cleveland doctors fixed him – guys that have constant, nagging issues. (you might even put Boobie Gibson and all his high-ankle sprains into that group) Varejao’s injuries range from broken wrist to dislocated shoulder to broken cheekbone. Maybe his style has something to do with it (flying into the stands and diving on the floor) but in some of these cases clearly there is some bad luck involved. If he was dealing with a nagging knee or back injury every 6 months it’d be different story. Clearly, these injuries haven’t affected his play at all. When he’s out he’s out, when he’s in he’s getting better every day, playing more minutes and at a higher usage rate with the only side effect being a spike in PER as it were.

dazedconfused;1330493 wrote:oklahoma city for toronto's first round pick would probably be the only decent value out there