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Oct 3, 2012 9:03 PM
"Trickle down govt"...point, Romney
Oct 3, 2012 9:03pm
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Oct 3, 2012 9:11 PM
All important issues aside, I hate Romney's face.
Oct 3, 2012 9:11pm
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Oct 3, 2012 9:12 PM
Romney is doing well though.
Oct 3, 2012 9:12pm
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Oct 3, 2012 9:13 PM
I don't know if it's the camera angle or what, but it looks unnatural the way he stares directly at you.
Oct 3, 2012 9:13pm
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Oct 3, 2012 9:14 PM
Sitting there with that smug smile while Obama lies his ass off won't score Romney any points, either.
Oct 3, 2012 9:14pm
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Oct 3, 2012 9:14 PM
I'm already sick of them talking about taxes, just keep saying the same things.
Oct 3, 2012 9:14pm
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Oct 3, 2012 9:17 PM
Man, Romney nailed it though with "I've got 5 boys...I'm used to people repeating the same lie over and over hoping I'll believe it"
Oct 3, 2012 9:17pm
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Oct 3, 2012 9:17 PM
Obama has been laughable so far. Just keeps hammering all these useless talking points.
Oct 3, 2012 9:17pm
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Oct 3, 2012 9:18 PM
Romney should counter the "middle class tax breaks" with how that's more than offset by a decline in wages.
Oct 3, 2012 9:18pm
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Oct 3, 2012 9:19 PM
I don't like when candidates badger the moderator. Romney has been pretty annoying in regards to this.
Oct 3, 2012 9:19pm
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Oct 3, 2012 9:26 PM
Romney is doing really well and Obama knows it.
Oct 3, 2012 9:26pm
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Oct 3, 2012 9:26 PM
This is a bloodbath....Everything Romney is saying, by the way, is spot on. But words =/= action
Oct 3, 2012 9:26pm
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Oct 3, 2012 9:27 PM
I think its pretty apparent Romney actually did his homework and Obama continuously spews talking point after talking point.
Oct 3, 2012 9:27pm
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Oct 3, 2012 9:29 PM
Romney is performing well, although I would like to see him speak to the audience (both in person and on TV) about the president instead of speaking to him so much. I'm sure he'll get there though.
Oct 3, 2012 9:29pm
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Oct 3, 2012 9:30 PM
Obama is talking about all these things that aren't right in this country. Does he not remember that he is President and actually has been in the position to do something the past 4 years?
Oct 3, 2012 9:30pm
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Oct 3, 2012 9:30 PM
jhay78;1286637 wrote:Romney is performing well, although I would like to see him speak to the audience (both in person and on TV) about the president instead of speaking to him so much. I'm sure he'll get there though.
I've noticed that too.
Oct 3, 2012 9:30pm
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Oct 3, 2012 9:30 PM
I kind of like this format, with the enlonged conversation, but Jim Lehrer needs to throw down the law. They are really taking over the rules and driving the debate. Questions and Answers are still vague.

No mention of the January 2 fiscal cliff.

But, from a strictly middle of the road view, Romney has fared better.
Oct 3, 2012 9:30pm
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Oct 3, 2012 9:30 PM
sleeper;1286635 wrote:I think its pretty apparent Romney actually did his homework and Obama continuously spews talking point after talking point.
Obama doesn't understand economics and fiscal policy. He's incapable of performing well on the fly, that's why he just keeps hammering the same talking points even after Romney has smashed them.

Could see a reversal in subsequent debates on foreign policy.
Oct 3, 2012 9:30pm
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Oct 3, 2012 9:31 PM
ptown_trojans_1;1286642 wrote:I kind of like this format, with the enlonged conversation, but Jim Lehrer needs to throw down the law. They are really taking over the rules and driving the debate. Questions and Answers are still vague.

No mention of the January 2 fiscal cliff.

But, from a strictly middle of the road view, Romney has fared better.
This!
Oct 3, 2012 9:31pm
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Oct 3, 2012 9:32 PM
Yikes.

Now I know why this week every DNC and liberal media talking head sprinted to every nearby microphone to downplay expectations for Obama in the debate.
Oct 3, 2012 9:32pm
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Oct 3, 2012 9:37 PM
ccrunner609;1286651 wrote:OMG, you have to be kidding me?
Given Romney's Op-ed's and his speeches, looking objectively, the President still should hold court.
Romney's Op-ed on the Middle East last week was a joke.

But, Romney is definitely looking better tonight.
The President is too vague.
Oct 3, 2012 9:37pm
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Oct 3, 2012 9:38 PM
ccrunner609;1286651 wrote:OMG, you have to be kidding me?
There aren't a lot of facts and science behind it. It's where Obama can really shine with his bs and talking points. And it's a case where Obama can arguably draw some positive contrasts with the prior administration. He'll spin Romney's positions that differ into parallels with Bush, and then talk about those failures.
Oct 3, 2012 9:38pm
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Oct 3, 2012 9:38 PM
Did Obama declare Social Security structurally sound?
Oct 3, 2012 9:38pm
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Oct 3, 2012 9:39 PM
bases_loaded;1286656 wrote:Did Obama declare Social Security structurally sound?
They both did for seniors.

SS is not the problem. It is Medicare. That is the killer. We are getting fatter and older.
Oct 3, 2012 9:39pm
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Oct 3, 2012 9:40 PM
bases_loaded;1286656 wrote:Did Obama declare Social Security structurally sound?
At this point. He said it needs tweaking. I think that's fairly accurate. Currently it's not a major driver of the deficit, if at all. Medicare is the big problem.
Oct 3, 2012 9:40pm