Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jun 15, 2013 6:26pm
Fly4Fun;1458324 wrote:I've seen the reports about Chris Paul and Dwight Howard wanting to land in the same spot, but I haven't seen anything about where that spot could be.
Clips, hawks, rockets, mavs
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jun 15, 2013 7:00pm
Same, but Im not sure having the salaries/personnel of KG, CP3, Griffin, Howard, and PP would work out.Fly4Fun;1458324 wrote:I've seen the reports about Chris Paul and Dwight Howard wanting to land in the same spot, but I haven't seen anything about where that spot could be.
Obvious log jam with the bigs with KG, Griffin, and Howard.
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Jun 15, 2013 7:07pm
I think you misunderstood me. I don't think there is anyway KG, Chris Paul, Griffin, Howard and Pierce would all end up in the same spot.Pick6;1458334 wrote:Same, but Im not sure having the salaries/personnel of KG, CP3, Griffin, Howard, and PP would work out.
Obvious log jam with the bigs with KG, Griffin, and Howard.
I said I've seen reports about Chris Paul and Dwight Howard wanting to land in the same spot (just those two), which is manageable.
Trueblue23
Posts: 7,463
Jun 15, 2013 7:13pm
I read that the LAC are hoping make a sign and trade for Dwight, sending Blake and Bledsoe to the Lakers.Fly4Fun;1458335 wrote:I think you misunderstood me. I don't think there is anyway KG, Chris Paul, Griffin, Howard and Pierce would all end up in the same spot.
I said I've seen reports about Chris Paul and Dwight Howard wanting to land in the same spot (just those two), which is manageable.
Trueblue23
Posts: 7,463
Jun 15, 2013 7:16pm
I think I would be okay with that. Griffin is only going to get better, and I like Bledsoe's game. Lakers would still have cap space next year.
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Jun 15, 2013 7:32pm
Really? You think Griffin is only going to get better? Since his first year in the league his production in both ppg and rpg have gone down each year. This coupled with the fact that he already had knee problems (Stress fracture that led to a broken knee cap and subsequent surgery that kept him out of his rookie year) doesn't bode well for him. Yes, he could improve his shooting, but that's not his talent. He was/is a big physical power forward with explosive athleticism. The fact that his points and rebounds are already going down should be a warning sign.Trueblue23;1458339 wrote:I think I would be okay with that. Griffin is only going to get better, and I like Bledsoe's game. Lakers would still have cap space next year.
Hey, it's possible that I'm completely wrong. But I just wouldn't gamble on his future.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jun 16, 2013 11:54am
No, I didnt misunderstand you, I was just elaborating on my thoughts from my prior post some. Basically saying that there is little chance Paul stays with the Clippers if that trade with the Celtics happens.Fly4Fun;1458335 wrote:I think you misunderstood me. I don't think there is anyway KG, Chris Paul, Griffin, Howard and Pierce would all end up in the same spot.
I said I've seen reports about Chris Paul and Dwight Howard wanting to land in the same spot (just those two), which is manageable.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jun 16, 2013 11:57am
Question: Why on earth would the Clippers want to do a sign and trade for Dwight, especially an all-star (albeit overrated) and a young player with nice potential when they could get Dwight for free, anyways? Guess I dont see the point in helping out your cross-town rival, because the Lakers getting Griffin and Bledsoe would set them up for the post-Kobe era a lot better.
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Jun 16, 2013 11:59am
It would set the Lakers up to become a chronic 4th seed in the West. Griffin isn't going to win shit.Pick6;1458466 wrote:Question: Why on earth would the Clippers want to do a sign and trade for Dwight, especially an all-star (albeit overrated) and a young player with nice potential when they could get Dwight for free, anyways? Guess I dont see the point in helping out your cross-town rival, because the Lakers getting Griffin and Bledsoe would set them up for the post-Kobe era a lot better.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jun 16, 2013 12:10pm
I know he alone isnt going to win shit, but there is no denying it will make them better. Pau/Jamison or Pau/Griffin? Bledsoe comes in immediately as the best backup PG, which is important because of Nash's age, and potentially can be the future of that position for them. I cant consider the Lakers a "chronic 4th seed", because they will always be a top FA destination. We arent talking about the Hawks or Nuggets.Rotinaj;1458467 wrote:It would set the Lakers up to become a chronic 4th seed in the West. Griffin isn't going to win shit.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jun 16, 2013 12:14pm
Rotinaj;1458467 wrote:It would set the Lakers up to become a chronic 4th seed in the West. Griffin isn't going to win shit.
This. Griffin isn't going to take your team to a higher level. He'll sell tickets. Which the lakers probably don't need.
If you're the lakers you hold off on your tradeable assets until you can get a better return.
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Jun 16, 2013 12:41pm
I may even be generous with saying 4th seed. Here are the teams that I think will be better than the Lakers for at least next year. OKC, Spurs, Denver, Memphis, Clippers and Golden State. Hell maybe even the Rockets lead by top 26 player James Harden. Unless the Lakers get some major upgrades most of those teams will be better for a while.Pick6;1458469 wrote:I know he alone isnt going to win shit, but there is no denying it will make them better. Pau/Jamison or Pau/Griffin? Bledsoe comes in immediately as the best backup PG, which is important because of Nash's age, and potentially can be the future of that position for them. I cant consider the Lakers a "chronic 4th seed", because they will always be a top FA destination. We arent talking about the Hawks or Nuggets.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jun 16, 2013 1:46pm
Cant disagree with that. I stated on here a week or so ago that I think the future looks dim for LA right now. My point is just that I dont see why the Clippers should give them anything when they can get Howard for free, because I think having Griffin would help them lure a big FA and put them at the top again. But Im not well versed in all the sign and trade stuff.Rotinaj;1458473 wrote:I may even be generous with saying 4th seed. Here are the teams that I think will be better than the Lakers for at least next year. OKC, Spurs, Denver, Memphis, Clippers and Golden State. Hell maybe even the Rockets lead by top 26 player James Harden. Unless the Lakers get some major upgrades most of those teams will be better for a while.
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gport_tennis
Posts: 1,796
Jun 16, 2013 2:20pm
Rotinaj;1458473 wrote:I may even be generous with saying 4th seed. Here are the teams that I think will be better than the Lakers for at least next year. OKC, Spurs, Denver, Memphis, Clippers and Golden State. Hell maybe even the Rockets lead by top 26 player James Harden. Unless the Lakers get some major upgrades most of those teams will be better for a while.
OKC better
Spurs better
Denver...maybe(lot of uncertainty there)
Memphis (ditto)
Clippers (ditto)
Golden state ( healthy Lakers with Dwight are better IMO)
The Lakers started horrible yes, but they did finish 30-12 after getting some continuity. Yes they got swept, but what team wouldn't missing their top 4 guards.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Jun 16, 2013 8:58pm
I don't even realize LBJ is out there.
Pick6
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Jun 16, 2013 9:12pm
Lebron is the biggest bitch in the NBA
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jun 16, 2013 9:12pm
Scott Swegan ‏@ScottSwegan 14m See, Dan Gilbert is all about keeping LeBron from winning championships. He knew what he was doing by releasing Danny Green.
Pick6
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Jun 16, 2013 9:28pm
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jun 16, 2013 9:35pm
Why is Tim Duncan's kid wearing a bandana over his face?
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jun 16, 2013 9:51pm
Danny Green is currently the best player on the floor.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 16, 2013 9:53pm
By making open jump shots? nahwildcats20;1458674 wrote:Danny Green is currently the best player on the floor.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jun 16, 2013 9:54pm
robj55;1458677 wrote:By making open jump shots? nah
Yup. That's all he's doing.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jun 16, 2013 9:54pm
Guess you are only watching one end of the floor. He has made some nice plays on D.robj55;1458677 wrote:By making open jump shots? nah
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 16, 2013 9:54pm
Yes he has.Pick6;1458682 wrote:Guess you are only watching one end of the floor. He has made some nice plays on D.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jun 16, 2013 9:55pm
wildcats20;1458680 wrote:Yup. That's all he's doing.
Don't be so hard on robj, guys. You dissed his bf.Pick6;1458682 wrote:Guess you are only watching one end of the floor. He has made some nice plays on D.