robj55
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Jun 13, 2013 11:39pm
lol, hard times at ESPNernest_t_bass;1457685 wrote:Doris ****ing Burke? Really? Woof
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 13, 2013 11:41pm
Norris Colelhslep134;1457686 wrote:That's not true at all. If their bench was fine, they could overcome their starters sucking.
Mike Miller
Ray Allen
Shane Battier
Chris Anderson
Rashard Lewis
Joel Anthony
Jame Jones
Can anyone name a better bench? Honest question.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jun 13, 2013 11:47pm
Denver and the Clippers easily. I would also take Utah's bench when Hayward is filling 6th man duties.robj55;1457688 wrote:Norris Cole
Mike Miller
Ray Allen
Shane Battier
Chris Anderson
Rashard Lewis
Joel Anthony
Jame Jones
Can anyone name a better bench? Honest question.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jun 13, 2013 11:48pm
If I wasn't drunk at a bar id spend the time needed to completely shoot you down. As it stands, ill simply posit a giant LOLrobj55;1457688 wrote:Norris Cole
Mike Miller
Ray Allen
Shane Battier
Chris Anderson
Rashard Lewis
Joel Anthony
Jame Jones
Can anyone name a better bench? Honest question.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 13, 2013 11:48pm
I would have to see names to compare.Mulva;1457690 wrote:Denver and the Clippers easily. I would also take Utah's bench when Hayward is filling 6th man duties.
robj55
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Jun 13, 2013 11:48pm
That's fine, I was asking.lhslep134;1457691 wrote:If I wasn't drunk at a bar if spend the time needed to completely shoot you down. As it stands, ill simply posit a giant LOL
Mulva
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Jun 13, 2013 11:51pm
The Clippers had Bledsoe, Crawford, Barnes, and Odom off the bench.robj55;1457692 wrote:I would have to see names to compare.
Denver has Javale, Wilson Chandler, Andre Miller, and Brewer.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jun 13, 2013 11:52pm
The Miami bench has a bunch of specialists, but lets face it, the names are stronger than the games at this point. If you shut down the 1 or 2 things each guy does at a very high level, it's a pretty crappy bench.robj55;1457688 wrote:Norris Cole
Mike Miller - 5 years ago
Ray Allen - 5 years ago
Shane Battier - in college
Chris Anderson
Rashard Lewis - 5 years ago
Joel Anthony
James Jones - pick about half-dozen games in his career
Can anyone name a better bench? Honest question.
6-12 can be the next 7 guys who post on this thread. If the big 3 are scoring 80 points and ramming it down the throats every possession, it doesn't matter.
GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Jun 13, 2013 11:54pm
That's all Miami has. Names. Their bench is decent, but it looks a lot better due to name recognition than it actually is.robj55;1457692 wrote:I would have to see names to compare.
robj55
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Jun 13, 2013 11:54pm
Yeah I think I would take those as well, but I think Miami's bench fits their team needs more. I guess that's why I said anyone would want their bench. Every player fills a role which is what you want. Their players also do the intangible things, something those Clipper players(asides from Barnes) don't do. All someone like Crawford can do is score. Pretty good debate though.Mulva;1457694 wrote:The Clippers had Bledsoe, Crawford, Barnes, and Odom off the bench.
Denver has Javale, Wilson Chandler, Andre Miller, and Brewer.
robj55
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Jun 13, 2013 11:55pm
I agree with both of you Goon and AZU, most of those guys are older and past their primes.
ernest_t_bass
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Jun 14, 2013 12:16am
Fuck Steven A Smif.
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friendfromlowry
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Jun 14, 2013 1:02pm
Without looking up how his numbers have changed over the past 2-3 years, it seems like Bosh's value has really taken a shit. When/if they decide to trade him, I wonder what they'll get in return. I'm just going off instinct, but it's like for every good game he has, he has three where he isn't impacting.
Fly4Fun
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Jun 14, 2013 1:58pm
He is an example of one of those NBA players that got great numbers being on an average (or bad) team. Happens all the time in the NBA.friendfromlowry;1457869 wrote:Without looking up how his numbers have changed over the past 2-3 years, it seems like Bosh's value has really taken a shit. When/if they decide to trade him, I wonder what they'll get in return. I'm just going off instinct, but it's like for every good game he has, he has three where he isn't impacting.
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friendfromlowry
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Jun 14, 2013 11:06pm
I agree that he went from a bad team to a great one, but happens all the time? I don't know that you're necessarily wrong, but Bosh was averaging 24/10 and his numbers are nearly cut in half, in the playoffs at least.Fly4Fun;1457899 wrote:He is an example of one of those NBA players that got great numbers being on an average (or bad) team. Happens all the time in the NBA.
Fly4Fun
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Jun 15, 2013 8:08am
http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2013/notebook/_/id/9383835/guide-flopping
Notable people missing from being called out here:
Chris Bosh on #3 "The Fall Guy"
Kobe Bryant on #4 "The Flying Fibula"
And
LeBron James... although I'm not sure which one best suits him, possibly #2 "The Ric Flair"
Notable people missing from being called out here:
Chris Bosh on #3 "The Fall Guy"
Kobe Bryant on #4 "The Flying Fibula"
And
LeBron James... although I'm not sure which one best suits him, possibly #2 "The Ric Flair"
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jun 15, 2013 11:29am
Out at a bar and reading the OC. lol.lhslep134;1457691 wrote:If I wasn't drunk at a bar id spend the time needed to completely shoot you down. As it stands, ill simply posit a giant LOL
Fly4Fun
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Jun 15, 2013 11:47am
ESPN reporting Iquodala plans to opt out of his contract in Denver.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9389759/andre-iguodala-denver-nuggets-opt-contract-reports
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9389759/andre-iguodala-denver-nuggets-opt-contract-reports
Rotinaj
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Jun 15, 2013 2:49pm
Rotinaj reporting that Iguodala is overrated. Terrible from downtown and shot 57% from the stripe last year.
killer_ewok
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Jun 15, 2013 5:25pm
Reports are that the Clippers are attempting to trade DeAndre Jordan and 2 1st round picks to the Celtics for KG and Doc Rivers (obviously not technically trading for Doc but would essentially be doing so).
This is a pretty big trade if it goes down.
This is a pretty big trade if it goes down.
Fly4Fun
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Jun 15, 2013 5:29pm
NBC Sports is saying Pierce is tied into this as well, but it's very unlikely to actually happen.killer_ewok;1458316 wrote:Reports are that the Clippers are attempting to trade DeAndre Jordan and 2 1st round picks to the Celtics for KG and Doc Rivers (obviously not technically trading for Doc but would essentially be doing so).
This is a pretty big trade if it goes down.
killer_ewok
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Jun 15, 2013 5:32pm
Fly4Fun;1458318 wrote:NBC Sports is saying Pierce is tied into this as well, but it's very unlikely to actually happen.
I haven't seen anything about Pierce yet.
Fly4Fun
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Jun 15, 2013 5:42pm
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/15/some-buzz-growing-around-garnett-pierce-rivers-to-clippers-but-its-a-long-shot/related/killer_ewok;1458319 wrote:I haven't seen anything about Pierce yet.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9390303/los-angeles-clippers-believe-land-doc-rivers-kevin-garnett-paul-pierce-according-sources
Also, I look at this saying that everyone wants to get away from Rondo (Not really, but I just always felt like he was the annoying little brother that no one liked but they put up with anyways).
Pick6
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Jun 15, 2013 5:44pm
I saw something about the deal on my timeline with Pierce being included as well. Dont care enough to look it up.
With or without Pierce the Clippers would absolutely be getting bent over in the trade. Two first rounders (from a historically shitty franchise) and a solid starter for another decade to basically rent a coach and two washed up players for 1-2 years tops? No thanks. Im sure Doc and KG and possibly Pierce are interested in this because they are banking on CP3 being there, which I really doubt. Reports are that him and D12 have been talking about finding a way to team up for months.
With or without Pierce the Clippers would absolutely be getting bent over in the trade. Two first rounders (from a historically shitty franchise) and a solid starter for another decade to basically rent a coach and two washed up players for 1-2 years tops? No thanks. Im sure Doc and KG and possibly Pierce are interested in this because they are banking on CP3 being there, which I really doubt. Reports are that him and D12 have been talking about finding a way to team up for months.
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Jun 15, 2013 5:52pm
I've seen the reports about Chris Paul and Dwight Howard wanting to land in the same spot, but I haven't seen anything about where that spot could be.Pick6;1458321 wrote:I saw something about the deal on my timeline with Pierce being included as well. Dont care enough to look it up.
With or without Pierce the Clippers would absolutely be getting bent over in the trade. Two first rounders (from a historically shitty franchise) and a solid starter for another decade to basically rent a coach and two washed up players for 1-2 years tops? No thanks. Im sure Doc and KG and possibly Pierce are interested in this because they are banking on CP3 being there, which I really doubt. Reports are that him and D12 have been talking about finding a way to team up for months.