Ironman92
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Jun 1, 2013 10:42pm
I've never seen that called ever. Lol...well until now.
Azubuike24
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Jun 1, 2013 10:42pm
Very lenient with the definition of "straight up" there.ernest_t_bass;1451315 wrote:No. Hibbert is allowed to jump.
Laley23
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Jun 1, 2013 10:44pm
Thats not a foul on either player. Hibbert is the best big man defender when it comes to going straight up, just like that. But, at the same time, LeBron didnt use the off arm to block Hibberts block attempt. Should have been a no call. LeBron also needs to not act like Mike Davis and run all over the court. Heat were still right there.
robj55
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Jun 1, 2013 10:45pm
He was not straight up and down, that is a bad call.
Ironman92
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Jun 1, 2013 10:46pm
Laley23;1451319 wrote:Thats not a foul on either player. Hibbert is the best big man defender when it comes to going straight up, just like that. But, at the same time, LeBron didnt use the off arm to block Hibberts block attempt. Should have been a no call. LeBron also needs to not act like Mike Davis and run all over the court. Heat were still right there.
He's fast. Lol....could you see MJ doing that?....though he would've been shooting 2
Fly4Fun
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Jun 1, 2013 10:46pm
This, there is nothing that should have been whistled on the original play. But LeBron needs to learn to keep his cool while they still have a shot. The technical at that point really hurt.Laley23;1451319 wrote:Thats not a foul on either player. Hibbert is the best big man defender when it comes to going straight up, just like that. But, at the same time, LeBron didnt use the off arm to block Hibberts block attempt. Should have been a no call. LeBron also needs to not act like Mike Davis and run all over the court. Heat were still right there.
Ironman92
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Jun 1, 2013 10:46pm
Nice 3 by Wade. Lol....did someone open the door?
ernest_t_bass
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Jun 1, 2013 10:47pm
robj55;1451320 wrote:He was not straight up and down, that is a bad call.
Yeah, no.
Ironman92
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Jun 1, 2013 10:47pm
LBJ with a seizure in the air.
Azubuike24
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Jun 1, 2013 10:48pm
I agree it could've been a no call.
Go back, freeze the replay and draw a line straight up and down. He was simply not "straight up." It was a good defensive play, but that gets called a foul on a nightly basis.
Go back, freeze the replay and draw a line straight up and down. He was simply not "straight up." It was a good defensive play, but that gets called a foul on a nightly basis.
Laley23
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Jun 1, 2013 10:48pm
They never are. Straight up is not literally straight up. If Hibbert does that on the ground, its not a foul. The way the NBA has said you can defend inside that arc means its the same principle in the air.robj55;1451320 wrote:He was not straight up and down, that is a bad call.
Hb31187
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Jun 1, 2013 10:48pm
LeBron is such a fucking cry baby. Omggggff they called a foul on me?!?!?
Laley23
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Jun 1, 2013 10:49pm
You watch enough basketball to know they are never straight up.Azubuike24;1451326 wrote:I agree it could've been a no call.
Go back, freeze the replay and draw a line straight up and down. He was simply not "straight up." It was a good defensive play, but that gets called a foul on a nightly basis.
Is that a foul if Hibbert is on the ground and not jumping? Cause it should be the same if he is in the air based on what the NBA has been preaching about the defense inside the arc.
ernest_t_bass
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Jun 1, 2013 10:50pm
Ice
robj55
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Jun 1, 2013 10:51pm
Look at the replay and the angle of his arms.ernest_t_bass;1451324 wrote:Yeah, no.
Laley23
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Jun 1, 2013 10:51pm
As Chuck said (I think after game 2), Pacers have a chance because they have the 2nd, 3rd and 4th best players in this series (George, Hibbert and West).
Azubuike24
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Jun 1, 2013 10:52pm
Yeah, I can agree it was a neutral call at best. However, Hibbert did go straight up, but his wrists were bent downward which is why Lebron tried to go through him.
The call didn't really matter though. The Pacers have converted way too well in this quarter, from what I've seen.
The call didn't really matter though. The Pacers have converted way too well in this quarter, from what I've seen.
ernest_t_bass
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Jun 1, 2013 10:52pm
robj55;1451331 wrote:Look at the replay and the angle of his arms.
It wasn't a foul on Hibbert, Karen.
robj55
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Jun 1, 2013 10:52pm
If your arms aren't straight up and down it's a foul, whether on the ground or not. His arms were angled forward, making it a foul.Laley23;1451327 wrote:They never are. Straight up is not literally straight up. If Hibbert does that on the ground, its not a foul. The way the NBA has said you can defend inside that arc means its the same principle in the air.
Laley23
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Jun 1, 2013 10:52pm
See, I agree. I just dont think they are ever "straight up". That was pretty close to straight up in basketball post defense terms.robj55;1451331 wrote:Look at the replay and the angle of his arms.
ernest_t_bass
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Jun 1, 2013 10:53pm
robj55;1451335 wrote:If your arms aren't straight up and down it's a foul, whether on the ground or not. His arms were angled forward, making it a foul.
Karen, stop.
Crimson streak
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Jun 1, 2013 10:53pm
Indiana pretty much dominated this game from the start. Game 7 will be interesting. Lebron is getting absolutely no help.
ernest_t_bass
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Jun 1, 2013 10:54pm
Nice job, bird man, you fuck up.
Laley23
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Jun 1, 2013 10:54pm
put your arms up over your head. Its almost impossible to even get them straight up. Dont use that bullshit line up his spin argument. That isnt what "straight up" is and you know it.robj55;1451335 wrote:If your arms aren't straight up and down it's a foul, whether on the ground or not. His arms were angled forward, making it a foul.
robj55
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Jun 1, 2013 10:54pm
Miami deserves to lose this series. If I'm Lebron I'm getting in Wade and Bosh's ass. Complete no show all series on their part, where is your pride? Indy is a GOOD team but not great, no excuse for them to play that way. If Miami's role players don't make shots they will lose game 7.