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James Gatz

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Dec 23, 2012 11:19 PM
Laley23;1350116 wrote:He said it was a bad pick because he didnt see Turner as someone who could lead you to a title. Which I think is true, and at #2 overall, thats a waste.
What player did they have the option of taking that could lead a team to a title? Favors, Wes Johnson, Cousins, Udoh, Monroe, Aminu? I would take Monroe over Turner(maybe) but he's not a guy that could lead a team to a title, no one(including Wall) in that draft is.

Also, here's a list of the last 11 #2 picks
Kidd-Gilchrist
Williams
Turner
Thabeet
Beasley
Durant
Aldridge
Williams
Okafur
Milicic
Williams

Turner is near the top end of that class of guys. In fact, there's only 2 guys I'd rank solidly above him. Thinking you're going to get "a guy who can lead you to a title" at #2 is a poor standard. There just aren't that many guys of that caliber floating around out there.

Whining incessantly about the Turner pick was idiotic, and I'm guessing mostly driven by his nut hugging of Kentucky. I honestly didn't remember who it was, and Azu is a solid poster, but he looks pretty foolish on that one.
Dec 23, 2012 11:19pm
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Azubuike24

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Dec 24, 2012 12:11 AM
Another negative about Turner. He's 25. How much upside does he have? When in doubt, I'd still go with a guy who has more potential. Again, it's tough because I actually want Turner to become a star.

It's funny though because of that list you posted, you only take ONE guy over Turner? Haha. A 19-year old Kidd-Gilchrist, really? LaMarcus Aldridge, who by the way, is only 27...yet he's in his 7th year. Durant, that's a no-brainer obviously.

Maybe it's just my philosophy and I do agree there doesn't appear to be a guy they totally whiffed on in that draft. Either way, if you draft a 22-year old that high he better be an immediate impact guy who is a guaranteed top-end option. Maybe not a mega-star, but someone you can consider building a franchise around. For as solid as Turner's style is, I just never saw him becoming that and IMO, that's selling yourself short with a #2 overall pick.

I guess we'll have to let things play out a bit longer on this debate.
Dec 24, 2012 12:11am
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James Gatz

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Dec 24, 2012 12:26 AM
Azubuike24;1350157 wrote:It's funny though because of that list you posted, you only take ONE guy over Turner?
I guess that would be "funny" except I clearly said two. In fact, I said there's two guys I'd "rank solidly above him" meaning someone like MKG could rise above him eventually. Your jimmies are so rustled you misread my post.
Dec 24, 2012 12:26am
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Dec 25, 2012 2:04 PM
Sully playing really well today
Dec 25, 2012 2:04pm
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gport_tennis

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Dec 25, 2012 5:27 PM
Some questionable calls to me
Dec 25, 2012 5:27pm
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gport_tennis

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Dec 25, 2012 5:42 PM
Gasol wore his big boy pants today. Nice dunk to close the game out
Dec 25, 2012 5:42pm
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robj55

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Dec 25, 2012 7:43 PM
No way that is a flagrant foul.
Dec 25, 2012 7:43pm
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Dec 25, 2012 7:44 PM
robj55;1350690 wrote:No way that is a flagrant foul.

Not even close
Dec 25, 2012 7:44pm
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Dec 25, 2012 7:45 PM
Westbrook is pissed but not real sure anything was dirty. Wade was going all for ball and Battier went more recklessly into the stands than anyone after reaching for ball but hitting his arms.

Just looked like a basketball play to me. Happens about twice a game in high school.
Dec 25, 2012 7:45pm
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robj55

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Dec 25, 2012 7:46 PM
They both hit the ball, it just looked worse than what it was. Atleast they got it right.
Dec 25, 2012 7:46pm
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Dec 25, 2012 7:48 PM
Gotta think these two teams will meet in the finals again this year.
Dec 25, 2012 7:48pm
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Ironman92

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Dec 25, 2012 7:48 PM
This is a pretty good game....maybe bought off Stern-style for Christmas but good.
Dec 25, 2012 7:48pm
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Dec 25, 2012 8:04 PM
Wade is such a bitch
Dec 25, 2012 8:04pm
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Ironman92

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Dec 25, 2012 8:05 PM
OKC 34 ft
Miami 12

Not saying it's right or wrong....just surprising
Dec 25, 2012 8:05pm
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Dec 25, 2012 8:05 PM
Crimson streak;1350698 wrote:Wade is such a bitch
You beat me to it.
Dec 25, 2012 8:05pm
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Dec 25, 2012 8:07 PM
Crimson streak;1350698 wrote:Wade is such a bitch

Fall down 8 times......get up 8 times.....3 without hesitation and should've only fell twice. I think that's how the commercial went.
Dec 25, 2012 8:07pm
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Dec 25, 2012 8:09 PM
What did Wade do, did I miss something?
Dec 25, 2012 8:09pm
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Dec 25, 2012 8:13 PM
robj55;1350704 wrote:What did Wade do, did I miss something?

What doesn't he do? He still flops all over the place and cries like a ***** every possession.

Ray Allen got what was coming to him on that screen
Dec 25, 2012 8:13pm
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Dec 25, 2012 8:14 PM
robj55;1350704 wrote:What did Wade do, did I miss something?

Got hit a little bit (and he hit some too)...fell down, rolled in agony, laid there a second and then got up pissed.?
Dec 25, 2012 8:14pm
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Dec 25, 2012 8:15 PM
Crimson streak;1350705 wrote:What doesn't he do? He still flops all over the place and cries like a ***** every possession.

Ray Allen got what was coming to him on that screen

I'll bite....what did Ray Allen do besides piss off Boston?
Dec 25, 2012 8:15pm
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Dec 25, 2012 8:18 PM
Ironman92;1350707 wrote:I'll bite....what did Ray Allen do besides piss off Boston?

Ehh that whole leaving Boston to go to Miami thing after what happened in the playoffs was a huge douche move. Plus he flopped like 2 min earlier and got the offensive foul on Westbrook.
Dec 25, 2012 8:18pm
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Ironman92

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Dec 25, 2012 8:19 PM
That was great patience on that crucial play.
Dec 25, 2012 8:19pm
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robj55

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Dec 25, 2012 8:19 PM
Oh okay I didn't see it I guess, wasn't paying attention.
Dec 25, 2012 8:19pm
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Dec 25, 2012 8:20 PM
lol at the officials not calling, and most especially the announcers not even mentioning, the blatant slap across the arm from Chalmers on that Durant dunk. You'll never see a clearer uncalled And-1.
Dec 25, 2012 8:20pm
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Dec 25, 2012 8:21 PM
That was great D and a great shot
Dec 25, 2012 8:21pm