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Jun 12, 2013 10:19 PM
Pick6;1457004 wrote:Oh jesus christ. I annoy people on here. Like the value of my life is determined by what people on a message board think.

I have no reason for saying it? I cant have a fucking opinion? It is MY OPINION that he isnt getting hired due to his invaluable coaching skills because nobody knows whether he is capable of running a team or not. Jesus Christ some of you need to get a life and not nitpick everything. Nobody knows how good or bad of a coach Jason Kidd is, which is why it will be luck if he ends up good. I mean its clear the Nets are one of the top franchises in the NBA and know exactly what they are doing /sarcasm.
Where did I say your life is dependent on this site? Fucking relax. Just telling you why you're annoying.

I didn't say you had no reason to say it..I said you have no reasoning. You're just randomly saying you don't think he's going to be a good coach, but giving no reason to why.

Nobody knows whether he is capable of running a team? Maybe the Nets do. Since you know, they hired him!!

Pick6;1457004 wrote: Are you this bored on a Wednesday night to sit and quote sections of a single post multiple times and criticize everything?

Cue the "butthurt" replies.


What's the point of a message board if I'm not supposed to quote people?

Am I supposed to be Mr. Social on Wednesday night? LOL

Your post comes off incredibly butthurt. You basically went off because I called you annoying.
Jun 12, 2013 10:19pm
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Jun 12, 2013 10:30 PM
Pick6;1457004 wrote:Nobody knows how good or bad of a coach Jason Kidd is, which is why it will be luck if he ends up good.

You can say that about any hire so to me that doesn't make any sense. I get why people think this is crazy but JKidd has always seemed like a very smart player so if there's any player that I think could immediately be a head coach it is him. Avery Johnson did pretty much the same thing(coaching his former teammates as well) and did a pretty darn good job immediately, so it isn't like this has never happened. Good to see fresh blood given a chance as well over a retread who has sucked in 2 other jobs.
Jun 12, 2013 10:30pm
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Jun 12, 2013 10:37 PM
Mark Jackson didnt have experience did he?
Jun 12, 2013 10:37pm
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Jun 12, 2013 10:38 PM
Terry_Tate;1457018 wrote:You can say that about any hire so to me that doesn't make any sense. I get why people think this is crazy but JKidd has always seemed like a very smart player so if there's any player that I think could immediately be a head coach it is him. Avery Johnson did pretty much the same thing(coaching his former teammates as well) and did a pretty darn good job immediately, so it isn't like this has never happened. Good to see fresh blood given a chance as well over a retread who has sucked in 2 other jobs.
Exactly. That's why it's so hilarious. Pick6 just randomly throws out his opinions and passes them off as biblical statements.

It makes ZERO sense to say it wasn't a good hire but if he turns out to be good, it's just a lucky move. No, it's, in the most literal sense I can stress, the right move.
Jun 12, 2013 10:38pm
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Jun 12, 2013 10:39 PM
Laley23;1457023 wrote:Mark Jackson didnt have experience did he?
No he did not.
Jun 12, 2013 10:39pm
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Jun 12, 2013 10:40 PM
If you are going to call an organization out as being "lucky" for a hire, you pretty much can never call an organization out for a bad move...cause, it was just "unlucky"
Jun 12, 2013 10:40pm
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Jun 12, 2013 10:45 PM
Gregg Popovich had no head coaching experience before being named (or I guess naming himself) head coach of the Spurs. What a lucky move.
Jun 12, 2013 10:45pm
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Jun 12, 2013 10:47 PM
Normally, I'd say an elite player isn't a great coach. However, Marc Jackson did a hell of a job. A great point guard, especially one who commanded the entire game and also had very versatile skills (like Jackson and Kidd) is probably the exception to the "great player, not great coach" mantra.

I think it's a great move for the Nets. I'd rather my team do that than hire a retread who's been with 2 or 3 other teams already.
Jun 12, 2013 10:47pm
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Jun 12, 2013 10:47 PM
Pick6;1457004 wrote:
Cue the "butthurt" replies.

No problem.

Obvious butthurt is obvious.

Also like to add (although it will go over your head): obvious hypocrite is obvious.
Jun 12, 2013 10:47pm
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Jun 12, 2013 10:49 PM
Switching sports. But Girardi had no experience. Only won NL Manager of the year with a payroll of $15 Million with the Marlins...
Jun 12, 2013 10:49pm
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Jun 12, 2013 10:54 PM
Laley23;1457033 wrote:Switching sports. But Girardi had no experience. Only won NL Manager of the year with a payroll of $15 Million with the Marlins...
I'll never call anyone out for having an opinion that is backed up. I.e. Detroit won't make the playoffs because of this, this, this, and this.

I'll never call anyone out for having an opinion that doesn't come off as factual. I.e. I think Detroit will miss the playoffs, don't know why, just feel like they will miss it.

But to say an opinion and not back it up and then make a stupid comment like "if they did the right thing, and my opinion is wrong, they were just lucky." That's going to get called out lol
Jun 12, 2013 10:54pm
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Jun 13, 2013 1:14 AM
If I was a Nets fan, I'd actually be okay with hiring Jason Kidd. It seems the NBA coaching carousel is incredibly redundant and difficult to find the right fit.
Jun 13, 2013 1:14am
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Jun 13, 2013 8:48 AM
Only guy other than Kidd I would have been OK with is Shaw. As it's been said, much better hires to try out a new HC then to go with someone like Mo Cheeks who's had minimal success in previous HC stints. Althought I will say as a Cavs fan, with how many coaches are on the move I'm glad we got out of the carousel early. None of the hires have really jumped out at me as a great move and the remaining candidates are underwhelming IMO.

And I think we've gotten some good assistants like Kokoskov who might not have been available if we waited to make a move.
Jun 13, 2013 8:48am
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Jun 13, 2013 8:49 AM
mucalum49;1457161 wrote:Only guy other than Kidd I would have been OK with is Shaw. As it's been said, much better hires to try out a new HC then to go with someone like Mo Cheeks who's had minimal success in previous HC stints. Althought I will say as a Cavs fan, with how many coaches are on the move I'm glad we got out of the carousel early. None of the hires have really jumped out at me as a great move and the remaining candidates are underwhelming IMO.
Who would you rather have for the Cavs--Mike Brown or J Kidd?
Jun 13, 2013 8:49am
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Jun 13, 2013 8:53 AM
SportsAndLady;1457163 wrote:Who would you rather have for the Cavs--Mike Brown or J Kidd?

Or maybe George Karl?
Jun 13, 2013 8:53am
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Jun 13, 2013 8:53 AM
SportsAndLady;1457163 wrote:Who would you rather have for the Cavs--Mike Brown or J Kidd?
I think Mike Brown. He's a retread so I'm going against what I just said but he's not a Mo Cheeks style retread. Brown has had success in previous stops and is a safe hire for the organization. As I just edited my post I am pleased with the staff he's putting together. He'll teach our young guys to play better D which was lacking under Scott and Kokoskov supposedly runs a PG friendly offense which is what we need when our premier player is at PG.

We've got Vitaly and Mosely to continue mentoring our young bigs as well. Which will come in handy if we draft a guy like Len, Noel or Adams. So I guess I look at it from a staff perspective for the Cavs vs. just Jason Kidd and whomever he gets as assistants. But I do think he could have success as a coach right off the bat. Very smart player and is well respected in the league. D-Will has to be the happiest guy on the Nets about this hire.
Jun 13, 2013 8:53am
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Jun 13, 2013 8:56 AM
mucalum49;1457166 wrote:I think Mike Brown. He's a retread so I'm going against what I just said but he's not a Mo Cheeks style retread. Brown has had success in previous stops and is a safe hire for the organization. As I just edited my post I am pleased with the staff he's putting together. He'll teach our young guys to play better D which was lacking under Scott and Kokoskov supposedly runs a PG friendly offense which is what we need when our premier player is at PG.

We've got Vitaly and Mosely to continue mentoring our young bigs as well. Which will come in handy if we draft a guy like Len, Noel or Adams. So I guess I look at it from a staff perspective for the Cavs vs. just Jason Kidd and whomever he gets as assistants. But I do think he could have success as a coach right off the bat. Very smart player and is well respected in the league. D-Will has to be the happiest guy on the Nets about this hire.
Yeah, I would agree. My only issue with the hire is I don't think he can get us to a championship level. Yes, we'll be a playoff team soon, even a top 4 seed team within 2-4 years. But when we get there, is he good enough to win a title? I don't think he is
Jun 13, 2013 8:56am
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Jun 13, 2013 9:04 AM
SportsAndLady;1457169 wrote:Yeah, I would agree. My only issue with the hire is I don't think he can get us to a championship level. Yes, we'll be a playoff team soon, even a top 4 seed team within 2-4 years. But when we get there, is he good enough to win a title? I don't think he is
I can see that as a concern. It's funny I was looking up besides Pop who Brown was an assistant under. In Indy he was with Rick Carlisle who I think has had a similar career trajectory in a sense he always got his team to the playoffs but never pushed them to win a title until a few years ago. It can happen, coaches need to mature and learn from their mistakes as much as players do. And I think the Cavs organization is banking on his time away as a learning experience and he'll come back a better coach then he left.
Jun 13, 2013 9:04am
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Jun 13, 2013 11:18 AM
SportsAndLady;1457025 wrote:Pick6 just randomly throws out his opinions and passes them off as biblical statements.
You just explained pick6 perfectly. Reps.
Jun 13, 2013 11:18am
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Jun 13, 2013 11:26 AM
After sleeping on it, and seeing pick's post again, I still have to LOL. Yeah, the playoff team Nets are going to hire Kidd as a pr move. Not to mention their billionare owner put in a lot of money to see these guys succeed. Excuse me while I LMAO. :laugh:
Jun 13, 2013 11:26am
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Jun 13, 2013 12:07 PM
Congrats to JKidd, not sure how he will do but you know the players will respect him.
Jun 13, 2013 12:07pm
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Jun 13, 2013 2:34 PM
Spoelstra looking to start Lebron at center tonight. Sounds legit.
Jun 13, 2013 2:34pm
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Jun 13, 2013 3:31 PM
Rotinaj;1457373 wrote:Spoelstra looking to start Lebron at center tonight. Sounds legit.
They need to do something to improve the defense. Lebron's not getting enough offense (either from him or from help) but the Heat's defense is what killed them last game.
Jun 13, 2013 3:31pm
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Jun 13, 2013 3:56 PM
Rotinaj;1457373 wrote:Spoelstra looking to start Lebron at center tonight. Sounds legit.

Going for his Magic impression?
Jun 13, 2013 3:56pm
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Jun 13, 2013 6:50 PM
lhslep134;1457415 wrote:They need to do something to improve the defense. Lebron's not getting enough offense (either from him or from help) but the Heat's defense is what killed them last game.
Oh NBA players don't really defend perimeter shots anyways. If they wouldn't have sucked dick offensively the Spurs don't have to many easy baskets on the other end and they would have had pressure to make possessions count
Jun 13, 2013 6:50pm