OQB
Posts: 6,679
Sep 28, 2012 9:47am
Yes Richardson should be running the ball 18-20 times a game and then probably get another 3-5 touches in receptions...No excuse for his 12 carries last night, He is your best player on that offense GIVE HIME THE DAMN BALL!
OQB
Posts: 6,679
Sep 28, 2012 9:48am
''BR1986FB;1282190 wrote:Too bad you don't, Pat.
I was hoping for the Double Firing last night with Acta already being canned, I was hoping Shurmur was too....what's the point of keeping him around any longer??
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Sep 28, 2012 9:51am
C'mon now...you know that Golden Corral Holmgren isn't firing one of his groupthink "boys."OQB;1282218 wrote:''
I was hoping for the Double Firing last night with Acta already being canned, I was hoping Shurmur was too....what's the point of keeping him around any longer??
OQB
Posts: 6,679
Sep 28, 2012 10:00am
19 more days!!!
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Sep 28, 2012 10:13am
Good old doucher SQ Crazies arguing with me on one of my Facebook friends wall about why McCoy is "legit and should be the starter." He hasn't changed. Still a delusional asshat.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Sep 28, 2012 10:14am
lolBR1986FB;1282245 wrote:Good old doucher SQ Crazies arguing with me on one of my Facebook friends wall about why McCoy is "legit and should be the starter." He hasn't changed. Still a delusional asshat.
Good ol doucher SQ is right on the money
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Sep 28, 2012 10:17am
No he isn't. Still butt hurt that Weeden is starting to look legit?SportsAndLady;1282246 wrote:lol
Good ol doucher SQ is right on the money
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Sep 28, 2012 10:17am
I thought trolling was grounds for thread banting?Speedofsand;1280141 wrote:Balt. could put Torrey Smith's brother at QB and they would still beat Cleveland.
bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Sep 28, 2012 10:24am
I just don't understand the Weeden hate from the Browns' fans. I understand he looked like crap in the first game but he has improved since and I guess memories are short because I sure don't remember McCoy looking that good either. On top of that Weeden can make throws that I don't think McCoy could even attempt to make. It almost seems like some fans just want the QB with the bigger name. Oh and McCoy was far from legit as an NFL starter. I realize he didn't have the best team around him but I don't remember him showing that much either.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Sep 28, 2012 10:26am
That is crazy to me. Do people actually believe McCoy could stand in there pressured and deliver throws down the field? Hell no.BR1986FB;1282245 wrote:Good old doucher SQ Crazies arguing with me on one of my Facebook friends wall about why McCoy is "legit and should be the starter." He hasn't changed. Still a delusional asshat.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Sep 28, 2012 10:27am
He's looked like crap more than just in the first game.bigdaddy2003;1282256 wrote:I just don't understand the Weeden hate from the Browns' fans. I understand he looked like crap in the first game but he has improved since and I guess memories are short because I sure don't remember McCoy looking that good either. On top of that Weeden can make throws that I don't think McCoy could even attempt to make. It almost seems like some fans just want the QB with the bigger name. Oh and McCoy was far from legit as an NFL starter. I realize he didn't have the best team around him but I don't remember him showing that much either.
I give him credit because he has definitely improved (despite terrible coaching..) since he's been here. And he has actually looked good at times this year. I just don't think he'll ever look good consistently, which is what I want my QB to be.
It's just a matter of preference really...I don't think we can win a SB without an elite, top 5 QB. Some think we can with a top 10-15 QB. Matter of opinion.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Sep 28, 2012 10:27am
We're talking about SQ, here. I wouldn't classify him with "people"Automatik;1282258 wrote:That is crazy to me. Do people actually believe McCoy could stand in there pressured and deliver throws down the field? Hell no.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Sep 28, 2012 10:35am
I thought he handled himself well after the pick 6 and I didn't really expect it. That was a backbreaking play and I figured he and the rest of the team would fold.SportsAndLady;1282259 wrote:He's looked like crap more than just in the first game.
I give him credit because he has definitely improved (despite terrible coaching..) since he's been here. And he has actually looked good at times this year. I just don't think he'll ever look good consistently, which is what I want my QB to be.
It's just a matter of preference really...I don't think we can win a SB without an elite, top 5 QB. Some think we can with a top 10-15 QB. Matter of opinion.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Sep 28, 2012 10:35am
He's a dumbass. I had no issue with McCoy when they first drafted him but after awhile you just saw that he didn't pass the sniff test. Unfortunately they lost last night but I think they're lucky to get 6 points with McCoy at the helm. His lacking skills just condense the field and make it easier for defenses to defend.Automatik;1282258 wrote:That is crazy to me. Do people actually believe McCoy could stand in there pressured and deliver throws down the field? Hell no.
I think Weeden will be fine but I want to see him with some guys who will consistently catch the ball. I know people who defend McCoy will say "the same can be said for Colt" (regarding the dropped passes), which is true, but the physical skillset between the two of these QB's is night & day. I just think that Weeden opens up the offense more.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Sep 28, 2012 11:22am
Why are we even debating the QB? Weeden played well last night, DROPS killed us last night. Drops people. We should be bitching about Braylon Little. HE single handedly killed at least 2 drives last night. Cameron had a timely drop as well. Also the thomas hate is getting ridiculous. Dude's a stud, and is far from the fucking problem. lolfail on any dipshit talking about trading him. He's dealing with a knee issue, and is still the best LT in the game.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Sep 28, 2012 11:23am
Apparently SQ doesn't think so. :laugh:Commander of Awesome;1282318 wrote:Why are we even debating the QB? Weeden played well last night, DROPS killed us last night.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Sep 28, 2012 11:23am
And that avatar is god awful...
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Sep 28, 2012 11:25am
I know, I seriously hate posting with it. If Justin had stuck with the modell SB trophy I honestly dont think I could have continued to post.BR1986FB;1282324 wrote:And that avatar is god awful...
OQB
Posts: 6,679
Sep 28, 2012 11:29am
Use this picture as your avatar.....hahaha
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Sep 28, 2012 12:47pm
Saw some stats to back up Shurmur's pass happy offense. The Browns have thrown the ball 69% of the time while running 31%. Now part of that is due to playing from behind but those numbers are way out of whack. No way you're going to win consistently, with a rookie QB, throwing the ball that much.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Sep 28, 2012 12:57pm
I mean you can maneuver the run pass split all you want, we weren't gonna win that game nor are we going to win many games at all this season.
I didn't make excuses for McCoy and I certainly won't for Weeden. The pick 6 killed us.
I didn't make excuses for McCoy and I certainly won't for Weeden. The pick 6 killed us.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Sep 28, 2012 1:01pm
I'm not posting those stats to make excuses for Weeden. Any team needs more balance than that. Even GB & New Orleans with their pass happy offenses. I agree that the pick 6 killed us....along with the two dropped TD's by Little & Norwood.SportsAndLady;1282405 wrote:I mean you can maneuver the run pass split all you want, we weren't gonna win that game nor are we going to win many games at all this season.
I didn't make excuses for McCoy and I certainly won't for Weeden. The pick 6 killed us.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Sep 28, 2012 1:04pm
You're subconsciously making excuses for him, even though you may not mean to. Norwoods wasn't a drop the defender knocked it out of his hands, by the way.BR1986FB;1282410 wrote:I'm not posting those stats to make excuses for Weeden. Any team needs more balance than that. Even GB & New Orleans with their pass happy offenses. I agree that the pick 6 killed us....along with the two dropped TD's by Little & Norwood.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Sep 28, 2012 1:08pm
So now you're a psychologist? Thanks.... :rolleyes: and Norwood had his hands on that ball. Doesn't matter if the defender knocked it out of his hands. He had 3 drops on the night while the team had 9 catchable balls that they didn't come down with.SportsAndLady;1282413 wrote:You're subconsciously making excuses for him, even though you may not mean to. Norwoods wasn't a drop the defender knocked it out of his hands, by the way.
I'm not expecting perfection but even 50% of those being caught might have meant the difference in the game.
As far as the "balanced offense" thing, like_that and I were already having a conversation about that before I even brought up the actual stats.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Sep 28, 2012 1:26pm
69/31 is fucking pathetic. No reason to take your best offensive weapon out of the game.BR1986FB;1282417 wrote:So now you're a psychologist? Thanks.... :rolleyes: and Norwood had his hands on that ball. Doesn't matter if the defender knocked it out of his hands. He had 3 drops on the night while the team had 9 catchable balls that they didn't come down with.
I'm not expecting perfection but even 50% of those being caught might have meant the difference in the game.
As far as the "balanced offense" thing, like_that and I were already having a conversation about that before I even brought up the actual stats.
Also I am with COA, whoever was saying we should try and trade JT needs to GTFO and quit talking about football. That's a complete joke.