I give you Hope and Change to a foddering system and you mofo go nuts.
It Ok for Obama to disregard the Constitution .. I guess when it convenient it’s OK

I’m in total agreement that the Constitutional is perfect and citizen born on American soil from America held citizenship at the age of 18 should have the Right to vote.

That “Right” is the starting point which is perfect.

But has the government created a corrupted balance of social economic class entitlement society that is no longer actable for a fair and balance election? Let not forget that you Democrat are all about fairness .. Equal share of prosperity, wealth and future.

Maybe we shouldn’t start with changing the two party system but changing the quality, education and social commitment of the American Voter

lol now that would be pluocracy.
it is interesting you would give greater votes to the wealthy but not for example to those who served in defense of the country.
gosh if we gave larger vote totals to those families who had members who served protecting the country, gosh the romneys would not have much of a vote at all.

Strange I actually agree more with isadore in this thread.

ccrunner wrote:. A reward for achievement should not = others substandards in todays voting system.

College degree, high tax rate, home owner etc..... should have more say then others.

you are being disengenuous, the choices you listed are much more easily obtained by those born with resources, your choices favor those born to wealth.

Belly35;1274421 wrote:I give you Hope and Change to a foddering system and you mofo go nuts.
It Ok for Obama to disregard the Constitution .. I guess when it convenient it’s OK

I’m in total agreement that the Constitutional is perfect and citizen born on American soil from America held citizenship at the age of 18 should have the Right to vote.

That “Right” is the starting point which is perfect.

But has the government created a corrupted balance of social economic class entitlement society that is no longer actable for a fair and balance election? Let not forget that you Democrat are all about fairness .. Equal share of prosperity, wealth and future.

Maybe we shouldn’t start with changing the two party system but changing the quality, education and social commitment of the American Voter

Belly, what did you expect when your thread deals with "who should be entitled to vote"?

As for a "fair and balanced election", you blame the "entitlement society" yet don't mention the Citizens United ruling, which has opened the doors to large corporations and billionaires contributing limitless amounts to a candidate's Super PAC, essentially buyting the election.

the examples you selected are ones that favor those born to wealth.

stlouiedipalma;1274261 wrote:Because it is the constitutionally protected right of every legal American citizen to be able to vote when they turn 18. Case closed.

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stlouiedipalma;1274628 wrote:Belly, what did you expect when your thread deals with "who should be entitled to vote"?

As for a "fair and balanced election", you blame the "entitlement society" yet don't mention the Citizens United ruling, which has opened the doors to large corporations and billionaires contributing limitless amounts to a candidate's Super PAC, essentially buyting the election.

I don't disagree ... both parties are wrong on this account. Simple solution: Limited funds for campaigning, provide by the goverment to both canidates... this is the campaige budge live within its means. Term limits to Senator and Congressmen. Would be a start in a right direction.


Now you suggest: To limit the "entitlement society" influence on voting or do you not believe this is a factor in voting?

pmoney25;1274613 wrote:Strange I actually agree more with isadore in this thread.

Me too. Which makes me think I must be wrong.