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cats gone wild
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Sep 8, 2012 11:31pm
fifyRotinaj;1265116 wrote:Lol at Arkansas, Nebraska, and wiscy. What scrubs.
ts1227
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Sep 8, 2012 11:33pm
I saw that stat and wondered the same thing. I'd like to see the records when the B1G goes west/Pac-12 goes eastAzubuike24;1265100 wrote:How many were on the west coast? It's a different animal going across country versus going north/south.
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bigkahuna
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Sep 8, 2012 11:33pm
Yes, that record is B1G@PAC-12 Schools.Terry_Tate;1265102 wrote:That is on the west coast. Not sure about overall. Other than the 2 USC games I know Ohio State has rocked the PAC 12 and Wisconsin and Michigan haven't done so well.
Besides losing to Oregon back in 2003, I can't remember Michigan losing @ a PAC-12 School. I'll do some research and get back to you.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Sep 8, 2012 11:37pm
Utah wasn't a bottom of the conference team. I think their over/under entering the season was set at 8 wins, and they were supposed to fight for 2nd in their division (behind USC obviously). They're screwed without Jordan Wynn though.Azubuike24;1265072 wrote:It's tough to tell. The Pac 12 could get some fine OOC wins today. However, the bottom of the Pac 12 is brutal.
Utah loses to Utah State
Washington gets crushed by LSU
Colorado loses to Sacramento State
California struggles with Southern Utah
Washington State struggles with Eastern Washington
Classyposter58
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Sep 8, 2012 11:54pm
No way does MSU lose a game this year in the Big 10
End of Line
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Sep 9, 2012 12:00am
Facepalm at the UGA fans chanting "SEC SEC SEC"......
Terry_Tate
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Sep 9, 2012 12:08am
bigkahuna;1265122 wrote:Yes, that record is B1G@PAC-12 Schools.
Besides losing to Oregon back in 2003, I can't remember Michigan losing @ a PAC-12 School. I'll do some research and get back to you.
I was talking overall PAC-12, not at them. Losses to USC in Rose Bowl and home against Oregon in 2007 come to mind.
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bigkahuna
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Sep 9, 2012 12:18am
Michigan is 48-24-1 vs. current PAC-12 Schools
Of those, they are 9-11 vs. PAC-12 Schools in bowl games, and I think all but 1-2 of those games were Rose Bowls, so the majority of those are on the West Coast.
So in the regular season, Michigan is 39-13-1 vs. PAC-12. At home they are 30-6-1. Out west they are 9-7.
Which means the PAC-12 is 6-30-1 @ Michigan Stadium.
My guess is that the B1G struggles out west, and the PAC-12 struggles when they come to us.
Of those, they are 9-11 vs. PAC-12 Schools in bowl games, and I think all but 1-2 of those games were Rose Bowls, so the majority of those are on the West Coast.
So in the regular season, Michigan is 39-13-1 vs. PAC-12. At home they are 30-6-1. Out west they are 9-7.
Which means the PAC-12 is 6-30-1 @ Michigan Stadium.
My guess is that the B1G struggles out west, and the PAC-12 struggles when they come to us.
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bigkahuna
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Sep 9, 2012 12:19am
I broke it down in my post above, but I was thinking regular season B1G@PAC-12. Granted, I just did Michigan, but I'd assume it was fairly similar to everyone in general. We dominate in the Midwest, and the PAC-12 dominates us out West.Terry_Tate;1265135 wrote:I was talking overall PAC-12, not at them. Losses to USC in Rose Bowl and home against Oregon in 2007 come to mind.
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bigkahuna
Posts: 4,454
Sep 9, 2012 1:20am
Does it bother any other Michigan fan that Rich Rod is having immediate success in Arizona?
I mean he beat Toledo and is putting it on Oklahoma State tonight. It probably wasn't as much of a change for Arizona as it was for Michigan, but he has almost as many wins in the 1st 2 weeks of the season as he had the entire first year at Michigan...
I mean he beat Toledo and is putting it on Oklahoma State tonight. It probably wasn't as much of a change for Arizona as it was for Michigan, but he has almost as many wins in the 1st 2 weeks of the season as he had the entire first year at Michigan...
Tiger2003
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Sep 9, 2012 1:38am
bigkahuna;1265137 wrote:At home they are 30-6-1.
Which means the PAC-12 is 6-29-1 @ Michigan Stadium.
Am I dumb or am I missing something. This just doesn't make sense to me.
Also did you add in the Colorado win at Michigan?
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vball10set
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Sep 9, 2012 7:52am
Midstate01;1265080 wrote:CGW still sucks
repsTerry_Tate;1265082 wrote:CGW sucks
Rotinaj
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Sep 9, 2012 8:01am
What makes you think this? Was it barely beating a depleted mountain west team or them beating down a directional school? They will lose at least 1 B1G game.Classyposter58;1265129 wrote:No way does MSU lose a game this year in the Big 10
Fly4Fun
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Sep 9, 2012 8:01am
I didn't realize John L. Smith was Arkansas' coach. That explains the loss entirely. He apparently is carrying on that losers mentality from MSU.
Also, this past weekend made clear why I think rooting for a conference is dumb. I could give two shits that Wisky embarassed themselves or Iowa stunk. I have one team I support and that is Ohio State. I really don't care what the rest of the conference does. I'll never understand that whole mentality.
Also, this past weekend made clear why I think rooting for a conference is dumb. I could give two shits that Wisky embarassed themselves or Iowa stunk. I have one team I support and that is Ohio State. I really don't care what the rest of the conference does. I'll never understand that whole mentality.
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vball10set
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Sep 9, 2012 8:47am
I have to agree, with my exception being Nebraska--I've always liked them, so I'll pull for them every time, unless they're playing OSU.Fly4Fun;1265180 wrote:Also, this past weekend made clear why I think rooting for a conference is dumb. I could give two ****s that Wisky embarassed themselves or Iowa stunk. I have one team I support and that is Ohio State. I really don't care what the rest of the conference does. I'll never understand that whole mentality.
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vball10set
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Sep 9, 2012 8:50am
yup :thumbup:cats gone wild;1265012 wrote:Its looking like Bama and USC are the 2 best teams in the country. And yes i know its early. I think Oregon is prob next up in line. Not sold on LSU or OK, but as I said its early. Just my opinion.
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Sep 9, 2012 9:22am
I'm still not ready to give USC credit. They looked good against a mediocre Hawaii. They looked terrible at a terrible Syracuse.
I think USC will drop 1-2 games they shouldn't this year.
I think USC will drop 1-2 games they shouldn't this year.
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bigkahuna
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Sep 9, 2012 11:31am
You're not dumb, that was a typo on my part. It's 6-30-1/30-6-1.Tiger2003;1265156 wrote:Am I dumb or am I missing something. This just doesn't make sense to me.
Also did you add in the Colorado win at Michigan?
Yes, I did. I added the W/Ls vs. Colorado and Utah since they're current members. Michigan is 4-1 vs. CU; going 1-0 @Colorado and 3-1 vs.
They're 1-1 vs. Utah (both at the Big House). Both records are in what I posted.
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bigkahuna
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Sep 9, 2012 11:34am
I'm indifferent. If they win, it's good for the B1G, but I did a point and laugh at Wisky and Iowa yesterday. It's just hard to cheer for someone that you yourself are trying to beat ya know?vball10set;1265190 wrote:I have to agree, with my exception being Nebraska--I've always liked them, so I'll pull for them every time, unless they're playing OSU.
Azubuike24
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Sep 9, 2012 11:43am
Interested in the takes on Arizona smacking Oklahoma State around 59-38. This score really surprised me...
Outside of Washington, and Colorado and Utah (both awful), the Pac 12 looked really strong yesterday.
Outside of Washington, and Colorado and Utah (both awful), the Pac 12 looked really strong yesterday.
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bigkahuna
Posts: 4,454
Sep 9, 2012 11:50am
They did.Azubuike24;1265285 wrote:Interested in the takes on Arizona smacking Oklahoma State around 59-38. This score really surprised me...
Outside of Washington, and Colorado and Utah (both awful), the Pac 12 looked really strong yesterday.
Like I said before. Where was this type of Rich Rod's offense in his first year at Michigan?
Cal kind of looked bad though too, even in their win.
Azubuike24
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Sep 9, 2012 12:00pm
Definitely, I was ragging on them earlier in the thread. They are at the bottom, along with Wazzou, even though both won their game yesterday.
Still. Oregon, USC, UCLA, Stanford, the Arizona's and even Oregon State (although their first game). The top half appears to definitely be above the Big XII.
Still. Oregon, USC, UCLA, Stanford, the Arizona's and even Oregon State (although their first game). The top half appears to definitely be above the Big XII.
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bigkahuna
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Sep 9, 2012 12:18pm
Thanks toAzubuike24;1265292 wrote:Definitely, I was ragging on them earlier in the thread. They are at the bottom, along with Wazzou, even though both won their game yesterday.
Still. Oregon, USC, UCLA, Stanford, the Arizona's and even Oregon State (although their first game). The top half appears to definitely be above the Big XII.
UCLA
Oregon State
Arizona State
They're probably above the B1G as well.
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vball10set
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Sep 9, 2012 12:37pm
Me too, especially since they almost lost to Toledo, at home, the week before...go figure.Azubuike24;1265285 wrote:Interested in the takes on Arizona smacking Oklahoma State around 59-38. This score really surprised me....
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Sep 9, 2012 4:17pm
Yeah, the Pac-12 is def. the 2nd best conference this year. I mentioned it last year. It is just you never get to watch them.Azubuike24;1265292 wrote:Definitely, I was ragging on them earlier in the thread. They are at the bottom, along with Wazzou, even though both won their game yesterday.
Still. Oregon, USC, UCLA, Stanford, the Arizona's and even Oregon State (although their first game). The top half appears to definitely be above the Big XII.