DeyDurkie5;1241493 wrote:Am I banned?

sleeper;1241592 wrote:1st ban is a week. 2nd ban is a month. 3rd ban is a year.

Justin doesn't know how to do punishments nor does he know how to run a forum. And before I get the, "sleeper he has been running this place for over 2 years and its still going..". Yeah it's still going, but new member acquisition is about zero and the large swath of members didn't come here organically, they came here from the most abusive web forum in history.

Not only that, Justin has somehow convinced himself that the users who post, generate content, drive website hits are the problem and the solution is to attract the people who never post and only read occasionally. He's absolutely clueless on how to attract new, content generating, active users and is instead letting the old farts who barely know how to use a computer flood the forum.

Great business model. :thumbup:

sleeper;1241592 wrote:1st ban is a week. 2nd ban is a month. 3rd ban is a year.

Justin doesn't know how to do punishments nor does he know how to run a forum. And before I get the, "sleeper he has been running this place for over 2 years and its still going..". Yeah it's still going, but new member acquisition is about zero and the large swath of members didn't come here organically, they came here from the most abusive web forum in history.

Not only that, Justin has somehow convinced himself that the users who post, generate content, drive website hits are the problem and the solution is to attract the people who never post and only read occasionally. He's absolutely clueless on how to attract new, content generating, active users and is instead letting the old farts who barely know how to use a computer flood the forum.

Great business model. :thumbup:

sleeper;1241592 wrote:1st ban is a week. 2nd ban is a month. 3rd ban is a year.

Justin doesn't know how to do punishments nor does he know how to run a forum. And before I get the, "sleeper he has been running this place for over 2 years and its still going..". Yeah it's still going, but new member acquisition is about zero and the large swath of members didn't come here organically, they came here from the most abusive web forum in history.

Not only that, Justin has somehow convinced himself that the users who post, generate content, drive website hits are the problem and the solution is to attract the people who never post and only read occasionally. He's absolutely clueless on how to attract new, content generating, active users and is instead letting the old farts who barely know how to use a computer flood the forum.

Great business model. :thumbup:

O-Trap;1241603 wrote:You should start one. You obviously have an adept knowledge on how to do so.

Sleeper: The Web Forum Marketing Guru

sleeper;1241614 wrote:Starting a forum =/= running a forum

sleeper;1241614 wrote:Starting a forum =/= running a forum

O-Trap;1241620 wrote:Actually, if the issue is "new member acquisition," then that is, in essence, the lynchpin to starting a forum.

Let me know when you get it up and running. I'll be your first member.

Raw Dawgin' it;1241618 wrote:so you're either too lazy or incapable of starting your own, so you just bitch an moan about other peoples work and do nothing about it. Hmm...sounds like isadore logic.

sleeper;1241625 wrote:Well I'd prefer this forum to not run itself into the ground. Banning the active users in support of the inactive users seems like the worst possible idea ever.

sleeper;1241624 wrote:New member acquisition to a forum with less than 10 members is near impossible. Ever wonder why Justin is having such a tough time attracting new members? It's to the point now where I don't know if I can even save it.

O-Trap;1241635 wrote:ACTUALLY, new member acquisition to a forum with zero members is pretty easy if you know what you're doing. It's really only two elements that are needed: exposure and niche attraction. Justin did the latter well, and he took advantage of another forum's shortcomings for the former.

But there are many other ways to go about it. The fact that you think it's nearly impossible is actually quite telling in regard to how much you know versus how much you think you know.

Your signature is rather apropos.

Raw Dawgin' it;1241634 wrote:Don't break the rules - but it doesn't even matter since you post every where else on the site under a different name, so honestly, who gives a shit since you're not really banned.

sleeper;1241639 wrote:Yeah maybe 10 years ago when internet forums weren't as prevalent. Want to start a forum on Nigerian Cattle Fucking in SE Ohio? It already exists.

Clueless, it's the blind leading the blind.

O-Trap;1241645 wrote:Um ... no. Marketers are doing this today ... as in right now.

The fact that forums are relatively prevalent has nothing to do with it. Blogs are even more so, and yet they're still immensely profitable because you can drive lots of repeat traffic to them if you know what you're doing.

Sorry, but what you're saying is factually untrue, and anyone with any web marketing background at all (even someone most of us would call a "newbie") would know this.

Targeted traffic + any niche in which you can be competitive + constantly new content = a profitable site ... whether it's a forum or a blog or just an old-fashioned website.

sleeper;1241648 wrote:Anyone with a web marketing background who starts internet forums is unemployed or is a 10-tail success story. I'll stick with the former, you can go ahead and beat the odds. :thumbdown:

O-Trap;1241655 wrote:But please, feel free to cite your web marketing experience and explain how targeted traffic + fresh content + a niche you can settle in doesn't equal a profitable web model.

Raw Dawgin' it;1241661 wrote:He'll twist words you didn't even use then make an asinine claim about how you hate black people because you're in internet mod.

O-Trap;1241655 wrote:Again, untrue. Anyone with a web marketing background doesn't start an Internet forum without a solid model for those three elements I mentioned.

Somehow, I think you're confusing an adept web marketer with some moron who thinks that, because he has an unsaturated niche idea and took a class on SEO, he can create a successful forum/blog/etc.

If that's the case, then yeah, but it's the same as any business venture.

But please, feel free to cite your web marketing experience and explain how targeted traffic + fresh content + a niche you can settle in doesn't equal a profitable web model.

Raw Dawgin' it;1241661 wrote:He'll twist words you didn't even use then make an asinine claim about how you hate black people because you're in internet mod.

sleeper;1241671 wrote:Harvard PHD with a specialization in SEO and Computer Science. 20+ years experience working for Google. Beat that chump.

sleeper;1241672 wrote:I think you are confusing me with someone else. Typically, I will move the conversation to something about Hitler or something about God.