FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Aug 14, 2012 9:24am
You seem to know a lot about perverts...Big Gain;1246249 wrote:Undoubtedly Sandusky shared his boys with other boosters. That is never a one time deal, men with perversion LOVE to share, LOVE to tell of their escapades, LOVE to share secrets, LOVE to have pictures or tapes, LOVE to share those.....
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Aug 14, 2012 9:30am
Tressels' coverup did not provide improper benefits, so with your argument, they had no grounds to punish.HitsRus;1246373 wrote:That's a really good question. Another example of over the top NCAA action. The NCAA at least had grounds(improper benefits) a definite violation of clearly written rules. Still the sanctions were excesive considering the amount of such amounted to pocket change.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Aug 14, 2012 9:34am
I think that is in an inaccurate way of portraying the feelings of the President and the trustees....it appears that they were coerced into accepting the sanctions lest they lose the football program entirely.gosh the president of the university accepts the sanctions, the large majority of the trustees accept the sanctions. they realize their institution is responsible for covering up these horrendous crimes
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Aug 14, 2012 10:05am
gosh lets see, there is an enormous scandal involving despicable crimes involving the leaders of the university, athletic department and football programs. The university trustees have a thorough investigation done by an independent group of legal and law enforcement professionals lead by a former director of the FBI. The investigation shows an enormous coverup by the above listed leaders. The trustees and new president accept the findings of the investigation. The ncaa uses the university's own investigtion as the basis for determining instituional punishment for the obvious failure of psu. When the university's new president and trustess receives it very lenient slap on the wrist, they readily accept it
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Aug 14, 2012 11:17am
^^^^Maybe you should read their comments.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Aug 14, 2012 11:34am
Because it gave the players a competitive advantage by not having to sit out multiple games for rules violations.WebFire;1246334 wrote:So why did all the innocent people and the community at OSU have to suffer for Tressel's cover up? It was just the action of one man.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Aug 14, 2012 11:37am
The team was punished separately for that. The cover up was treated as a different case.sleeper;1246483 wrote:Because it gave the players a competitive advantage by not having to sit out multiple games for rules violations.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Aug 14, 2012 11:45am
It is my opinion that PSU had a recruiting advantage by not reporting the wrongdoings of Sandusky.sleeper;1246483 wrote:Because it gave the players a competitive advantage by not having to sit out multiple games for rules violations.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Aug 14, 2012 11:46am
And, back to my original question, it is still the action of 1 man. Why should everyone else suffer?sleeper;1246483 wrote:Because it gave the players a competitive advantage by not having to sit out multiple games for rules violations.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Aug 14, 2012 11:56am
Is Ohio State suffering? News to me, we got the best coach in the game and one of the best recruiting classes in the nation. If anyone's suffering, it's Michigan. Enjoy 7 straight losses.WebFire;1246504 wrote:And, back to my original question, it is still the action of 1 man. Why should everyone else suffer?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Aug 14, 2012 11:57am
As evidenced by all their recruits leaving because of the rapes :rolleyes:WebFire;1246501 wrote:It is my opinion that PSU had a recruiting advantage by not reporting the wrongdoings of Sandusky.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Aug 14, 2012 12:43pm
Tressel violated a reporting agreement/rule.Tressels' coverup did not provide improper benefits, so with your argument, they had no grounds to punish
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Aug 14, 2012 12:55pm
As evidenced by all their recruits leaving because of the rapes
How many wanted out before the sanctions were put in place??
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Aug 14, 2012 12:56pm
Zero.HitsRus;1246582 wrote:How many wanted out before the sanctions were put in place??
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Aug 14, 2012 1:17pm
^^^^wow...kind of makes you think
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Aug 14, 2012 2:50pm
Um, why would they want out about something they didn't know about?
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Aug 14, 2012 2:52pm
Right. So it goes beyond a direct improper benefit. Which is what you (or sleeper, I don't remember which) was using as an argument.HitsRus;1246568 wrote:Tressel violated a reporting agreement/rule.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Aug 14, 2012 2:52pm
I see. So that 6-7 season didn't happen. And neither is this year's post season ban.sleeper;1246524 wrote:Is Ohio State suffering? News to me, we got the best coach in the game and one of the best recruiting classes in the nation. If anyone's suffering, it's Michigan. Enjoy 7 straight losses.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Aug 14, 2012 2:55pm
6-7 happens when you play in the best conference in the country and you lose the vast majority of your upperclassman and have to play with a green QB all season long. The bowl ban doesn't bother me, we will beat Michigan and you can take that to the bank.WebFire;1246700 wrote:I see. So that 6-7 season didn't happen. And neither is this year's post season ban.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Aug 14, 2012 3:05pm
yeah ok man.sleeper;1246703 wrote:6-7 happens when you play in the best conference in the country and you lose the vast majority of your upperclassman and have to play with a green QB all season long. The bowl ban doesn't bother me, we will beat Michigan and you can take that to the bank.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Aug 14, 2012 3:23pm
How does it futility feel? Knowing that you have your best team in decades and they still will get the wood handed to them in November. Good game, sir, good game.WebFire;1246710 wrote:yeah ok man.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Aug 14, 2012 3:31pm
Huh?sleeper;1246725 wrote:How does it futility feel? Knowing that you have your best team in decades and they still will get the wood handed to them in November. Good game, sir, good game.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Aug 14, 2012 3:43pm
I'm calling it now. Shut out in November. Ohio State 35 Michigan 0.WebFire;1246733 wrote:Huh?
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Aug 14, 2012 3:46pm
Ah ok. Wanna bet an iPad on it?
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Aug 14, 2012 3:48pm
Heard today that another charge may be pending against Sandusky. Uncovered during an investigation by the USPS, that he may have molested kids on a private plane owned by a donor to his charity. Also, PSU has been put on alert by one of the Accreditation bodies.