First run today: 30 minutes, 3.5 miles

thavoice;1224254 wrote:So you only care about what people who have a relevant degree and certifications??

What?




Just comparing opinions; different real life experiences vs. people who may be considered "certified experts" because they earned a degree.
Not saying one is right and the other wrong. It's all about belief and personal experience.

I think lifting weights (especially the legs) for distance runners (especially competitive racers) is not necessary and only takes away from doing other exercises which would be more of a benefit.
For example - Instead of distance runners doing squats, I'd rather them do 20 or 30x 100m strides. Half of which are done backwards. Or instead of lifting or 100m strides, find a shorter but steep hill and do repeats. Run some of the repeats uphill backwards.

Pick6;1224257 wrote:First run today: 30 minutes, 3.5 miles

Nice! How did it go? How ya feel right after?

Tell us tomorrow if any soreness or other owies after waking up.

Pick6;1224257 wrote:First run today: 30 minutes, 3.5 miles

Not too shabby.

Pretty round numbers there.......30 minutes.....3.5 miles.......usually doesnt work out that way.

Just saying.

said_aouita;1224261 wrote:What?




Just comparing opinions; different real life experiences vs. people who may be considered "certified experts" because they earned a degree.
Not saying one is right and the other wrong. It's all about belief and personal experience.

I think lifting weights (especially the legs) for distance runners (especially competitive racers) is not necessary and only takes away from doing other exercises which would be more of a benefit.
For example - Instead of distance runners doing squats, I'd rather them do 20 or 30x 100m strides. Half of which are done backwards. Or instead of lifting or 100m strides, find a shorter but steep hill and do repeats. Run some of the repeats uphill backwards.

Oh I understand now.

I was a realist in my training for them. It takes alot of time and commitment to do it and to follow the lifting and running plans it can be very time consuming. Lifting isnt a bad thing at all, and most of the experts seem to really harp on it. In my run group none of those guys lift..just run like crazy and most are around 90 min for the half and are in their 50's and keep getting faster every year it seems.

WIth it being the first I was happy with just the cardio running part of the training. I am pretty sure that I can shave off 15 - 20 second per mile off my pace with more experience on the half. I try to do even splits but found myself doing negative splits so I think I can speed up early on and keep it that way.

said_aouita;1224242 wrote:Like I mentioned above- Just don't substitute lifting for running, if wanting to be a legit racer.
Also this part "Lean muscle mass is denser and burns more calories than fat tissue, which also helps people who run to increase fitness." more pertains to the upper body....imo.

Just a side personal question - Have the people with relevant degrees and certifications ever been competitive distance runners themselves? If yes, what are their PR's for different distances like the 5k up to half marathon?

Absolutely don't substitute lifting for running if you're trying to improve your running.

But what was initially said was if you wanted to increase leg strength you can't really get more effective than proper lifting.

I think we might be thinking the other is saying things they aren't. I'm not saying you should lift instead of run if the goal is to run faster. Just that it's generally a good idea to lift if you're looking to increase strength.

You want to run faster? Do more squats and get a bigger ass.

said_aouita;1224269 wrote:Nice! How did it go? How ya feel right after?

Tell us tomorrow if any soreness or other owies after waking up.

I surprisingly felt alright immediately post run. I walked a cool down lap and stretched pre and post run. However, I took a nap and now my calves are a little sore. I'm sure I will be feeling it in the morning.

thavoice;1224311 wrote:Not too shabby.

Pretty round numbers there.......30 minutes.....3.5 miles.......usually doesnt work out that way.

Just saying.

Agreed. Just a coincidence though. My alarm went off at the top of the first turn. So 3.5 miles + 50m I we are being precise.

Pick6;1224432 wrote:I surprisingly felt alright immediately post run. I walked a cool down lap and stretched pre and post run. However, I took a nap and now my calves are a little sore. I'm sure I will be feeling it in the morning.


Agreed. Just a coincidence though. My alarm went off at the top of the first turn. So 3.5 miles + 50m I we are being precise.

Usually will feel it the next day..but it goes away after a few more runs.
At the track I presume? While it is softer than the pavement it can be awfullly boring...especially on the long runs.

http://www.halhigdon.com/training/51130/Half-Marathon-Training-Guide


On the righthand side is a spot you can pick on how advance you think you are. As i stated before...I usually just followed it loosely but made sure I stayed true to the long run.