sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 18, 2012 1:51pm
White people typically spend their money on something relevant and worthwhile; while black people spend their money on shoes and fake gold/diamond jewelry. When's the last time you've seen a black person buy a stock?
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Jun 18, 2012 2:00pm
Actually, educated people raised with good parenting tend spend their money on something relevant and worthwhile. Uneducated people raised through poor parenting tend to spend their money on frivolities.sleeper;1203391 wrote:White people typically spend their money on something relevant and worthwhile; while black people spend their money on shoes and fake gold/diamond jewelry. When's the last time you've seen a black person buy a stock?
I know a TON of young white, black, Latin, and (a SLEW) Asian kids that would buy these shoes.
There are too many examples of education level, socioeconomic status, and parenting being factors that determine behavior like this at a far more consistent level. Pick a black kid growing up in suburbia with two parents working middle-class jobs and pushing their son to do well in school. Pit him against a white kid the same age ... even going to the same school if you want ... who has one parent working a lower-class job (government assistance a possibility) and who rarely has time to be home to push his/her son to excel in school and be responsible.
Which one buys the shoes?
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jun 18, 2012 2:05pm
Next time Foot Locker or Finish line is starting to sell a new, hot selling shoe take a trip to see who is waiting in line.sleeper;1203391 wrote:White people typically spend their money on something relevant and worthwhile; while black people spend their money on shoes and fake gold/diamond jewelry. When's the last time you've seen a black person buy a stock?
Whites? Or blacks?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 18, 2012 2:36pm
Blacks.thavoice;1203402 wrote:Next time Foot Locker or Finish line is starting to sell a new, hot selling shoe take a trip to see who is waiting in line.
Whites? Or blacks?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 18, 2012 2:36pm
I know zero black people besides our janitor.O-Trap;1203398 wrote:Actually, educated people raised with good parenting tend spend their money on something relevant and worthwhile. Uneducated people raised through poor parenting tend to spend their money on frivolities.
I know a TON of young white, black, Latin, and (a SLEW) Asian kids that would buy these shoes.
There are too many examples of education level, socioeconomic status, and parenting being factors that determine behavior like this at a far more consistent level. Pick a black kid growing up in suburbia with two parents working middle-class jobs and pushing their son to do well in school. Pit him against a white kid the same age ... even going to the same school if you want ... who has one parent working a lower-class job (government assistance a possibility) and who rarely has time to be home to push his/her son to excel in school and be responsible.
Which one buys the shoes?
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Jun 18, 2012 2:36pm
Not sure who is dumber, the people that came up with this or the people who will buy it.
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Jun 18, 2012 2:44pm
Then you've made an interesting assumption that blacks will be the ones buying this.sleeper;1203434 wrote:I know zero black people besides our janitor.
hasbeen
Posts: 6,504
Jun 18, 2012 2:45pm
if people buy it, the people who came up with it aren't stupid.gut;1203435 wrote:Not sure who is dumber, the people that came up with this or the people who will buy it.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 18, 2012 2:46pm
Our janitor is the only one wears athletic shoes to work.O-Trap;1203442 wrote:Then you've made an interesting assumption that blacks will be the ones buying this.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Jun 18, 2012 2:47pm
There's a break-even on the investment/production. Plenty of room for both to be stupid.pnhasbeen;1203446 wrote:if people buy it, the people who came up with it aren't stupid.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Jun 18, 2012 2:47pm
LMAO....a white dude wearing these is begging to get his ass kicked. Of course, that doesn't preclude the majority of buyers from being white.O-Trap;1203442 wrote:Then you've made an interesting assumption that blacks will be the ones buying this.
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Jun 18, 2012 2:48pm
And that means black people will buy these because ...sleeper;1203448 wrote:Our janitor is the only one wears athletic shoes to work.
Help me along in your train of thought.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 18, 2012 2:49pm
Perception equals reality.O-Trap;1203452 wrote:And that means black people will buy these because ...
Help me along in your train of thought.
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Jun 18, 2012 2:49pm
Not really. I suppose it depends where you're from ... but ah, doesn't that bring an interesting dynamic into it? Perhaps the subcultures of different areas plays a role into who would buy these?gut;1203451 wrote:LMAO....a white dude wearing these is begging to get his ass kicked. Of course, that doesn't preclude the majority of buyers from being white.
No, that can't be right. :rolleyes:
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Jun 18, 2012 2:51pm
Your perception is based on a singular example. Hasty generalization fallacy -OR- the Anecdotal fallacy: Take your pick.sleeper;1203453 wrote:Perception equals reality.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 18, 2012 2:52pm
It's my religion and faith that allow me to make such conclusion. Which fallacy is that?O-Trap;1203458 wrote:Your perception is based on a singular example. Hasty generalization fallacy -OR- the Anecdotal fallacy: Take your pick.
hasbeen
Posts: 6,504
Jun 18, 2012 2:53pm
the person who came up with it says "people will buy these." The person who agrees to mass produce is responsible for the break-even on the investment/production.gut;1203449 wrote:There's a break-even on the investment/production. Plenty of room for both to be stupid.
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Jun 18, 2012 2:56pm
I consider "faith" to be a cop-out in the way you're using it (don't worry, I see it as a cop-out when Christians use it the same way).sleeper;1203459 wrote:It's my religion and faith that allow me to make such conclusion. Which fallacy is that?
Plus, religions tend to have a metaphysical element ascribed to them, AND they do tend to be built on a logical framework. It merely uses different/fewer/more presuppositions than the worldview to which you currently subscribe.
Therefore, some kind of logical construct is still required to believe what you're saying if you want someone to take you seriously.
However, we do live in a nation that, for the time being, still permits freedom of thought and belief. Inasmuch as that is true, continue to think the way you do. Anecdote isn't insufficient for your belief, as it can be manifest in a tangible experience ... an empirical encounter. It is insufficient for anyone ELSE to take your position meritoriously.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Jun 18, 2012 3:21pm
The decision to mass produce is based on the sales forecast from the people who come up with the idea. I'm sure someone, somewhere, would buy an actual bag of crap, and that doesn't take the salesperson off-the-hook for a dumb idea.pnhasbeen;1203462 wrote:the person who came up with it says "people will buy these." The person who agrees to mass produce is responsible for the break-even on the investment/production.
hasbeen
Posts: 6,504
Jun 18, 2012 3:22pm
I could put a guarantee on that bag of shit, but then what would you have?gut;1203487 wrote:The decision to mass produce is based on the sales forecast from the people who come up with the idea. I'm sure someone would buy an actual bag of shit, and that doesn't take the salesperson off-the-hook for a dumb idea.
A guaranteed piece of shit.
password
Posts: 2,360
Jun 18, 2012 3:50pm
I can't wait, hope they are holding up signs during their protest.rmolin73;1203187 wrote:Trust me there will be a black group that screams of how this is such an injustice. I'm pretty sure you'll post a thread crying about their crying.
Scarlet_Buckeye
Posts: 5,264
Jun 18, 2012 4:37pm
Someone needs to be fired.
rmolin73
Posts: 4,278
Jun 18, 2012 6:29pm
O-Trap I don't believe sleeper has the stones to really get into this discussion with you. When he has in the past he has pretty much faded away when proven wrong. Which is typical sleeper. One week he is on the religion tip this week he is on the whole "minorities are crying about everything". While he cries about them crying. I find it humorous, somewhat clown like in his broad generalizations.O-Trap;1203458 wrote:Your perception is based on a singular example. Hasty generalization fallacy -OR- the Anecdotal fallacy: Take your pick.
rmolin73
Posts: 4,278
Jun 18, 2012 6:30pm
I'm prettyy sure you'll be the first to cry....I mean post about it.password;1203522 wrote:I can't wait, hope they are holding up signs during their protest.
DeadliestWarrior34
Posts: 3,101
Jun 18, 2012 9:15pm
I have a hard time believing this.