Tiger2003
                                                                            
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                                Jun 14, 2012 10:16pm
                            
                        robj55;1200409 wrote:Lebron's value to his team is greater than Durants.
You really can't be serious.
robj55
                                                                            
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                                Jun 14, 2012 10:17pm
                            
                        Read my post, then try and come up with an educated basketball argument instead of saying no, you can't be serious or smh or whatever..Tiger2003;1200432 wrote:You really can't be serious.
hoops23
                                                                            
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                                Jun 14, 2012 10:18pm
                            
                        
                                OKC needs to attack Miami on offense. Stop taking jumpers and drive the lane. They have nobody inside to deter lay ups/dunks.
                            
                        Ironman92
                                                                            
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                                Jun 14, 2012 10:20pm
                            
                        
                                This should be a tremendous finish.....Durant will get going, Westbrook will keep firing and when the Heat wear down he'll get his....Fish will hit a few.
                            
                        Pick6
                                                                            
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                                Jun 14, 2012 10:20pm
                            
                        he looks very valuable out there guarding derek fisher. maybe they should utilize him if he is so valuable. Like i said, how many games has lebron fouled out of?robj55;1200430 wrote:Correct, in terms of overall value in what he does on both ends. OKC has players that can explode on offense(Harden/Westbrook). Lebron has carried his team throughout the playoffs with Bosh being hurt and Wade being so inconsistent.
also, the past is irrelevant in this game. Wade has shown up and Bosh is healthy.
Automatik
                                                                            
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                                Jun 14, 2012 10:21pm
                            
                        Miami better not come out slow, an OKC run is coming.Ironman92;1200436 wrote:This should be a tremendous finish.....Durant will get going, Westbrook will keep firing and when the Heat wear down he'll get his....Fish will hit a few.
Pick6
                                                                            
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                                Jun 14, 2012 10:23pm
                            
                        
                                also rob, nobody is saying lebron isn't valuable to the team. The fact that you say he is without a doubt more valuable than durant is ridiculous, however.
                            
                        hoops23
                                                                            
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                                Jun 14, 2012 10:23pm
                            
                        
                                I doubt Miami comes out slow again. OKC is going to have to get stops and actually make shots.
                            
                        robj55
                                                                            
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                                Jun 14, 2012 10:24pm
                            
                        Predictable prisoner of the moment, look at the totality, Lebron has showed up in every game and carried them. Can't wait to hear the over exaggerations by ESPN and crew if the Heat win, shit gets old the way they try to create drama by overreaction.Pick6;1200437 wrote:he looks very valuable out there guarding derek fisher. maybe they should utilize him if he is so valuable. Like i said, how many games has lebron fouled out of?
also, the past is irrelevant in this game. Wade has shown up and Bosh is healthy.
Hb31187
                                                                            
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                                Jun 14, 2012 10:25pm
                            
                        If he flat out told Spoelstra "I want to guard Durant" he would. Thats what Durant told Brooks about Lebron.robj55;1200221 wrote:Lebron needs to guard Durant tonight, but Spoelstra and the coaching staff make the defensive assignments, not the players. For not being a "great defender" Lebron held Melo to 30% shooting, Danny Granger to mid 30% shooting and Paul Pierce to 33%, not shabby against elite offensive wings.
Hb31187
                                                                            
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                                Jun 14, 2012 10:25pm
                            
                        
                                Just got home, what went on the first half?  Thunder just playing bad or is Miami turnin the defense up and hittin shots?
                            
                        robj55
                                                                            
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                                Jun 14, 2012 10:25pm
                            
                        Just a matter of opinion, he is asked to do more which to me is why he more valuable for what HIS team needs as in comparison to Durant. Not bashing your conclusion just stating mine.Pick6;1200442 wrote:also rob, nobody is saying lebron isn't valuable to the team. The fact that you say he is without a doubt more valuable than durant is ridiculous, however.
robj55
                                                                            
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                                Jun 14, 2012 10:26pm
                            
                        
                                If Miami competes and locks down on D the way they did in the first they will win. If not OKC will make a run for sure and who knows what will happen.
                            
                        robj55
                                                                            
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                                Jun 14, 2012 10:27pm
                            
                        Miami playing hard as hell and attacking non stop.Hb31187;1200446 wrote:Just got home, what went on the first half? Thunder just playing bad or is Miami turnin the defense up and hittin shots?
Hb31187
                                                                            
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                                Jun 14, 2012 10:28pm
                            
                        Wade and Lebron finally figure out theyre not jump shooters lol?robj55;1200450 wrote:Miami playing hard as hell and attacking non stop.
robj55
                                                                            
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                                Jun 14, 2012 10:28pm
                            
                        Obviously, but my point stands, coaches make the defensive assignments, Lebron has guarded Durant tonight. That is what coaching is, making adjustments, as obviously it didn't work for them in game one down the stretch.Hb31187;1200445 wrote:If he flat out told Spoelstra "I want to guard Durant" he would. Thats what Durant told Brooks about Lebron.
sleeper
                                                                            
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                                Jun 14, 2012 10:29pm
                            
                        
                                Hard to say who is more valuable to their team between Durant and Lebron.
I will say I think Lebron is flat out the better player.
                        I will say I think Lebron is flat out the better player.
robj55
                                                                            
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                                Jun 14, 2012 10:29pm
                            
                        Not settling at all, I mean at times you have to take jump shots to keep the D honest. Miami held OKC to 2 points in the first 8 minutes of the game or so.Hb31187;1200451 wrote:Wade and Lebron finally figure out theyre not jump shooters lol?
hoops23
                                                                            
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                                Jun 14, 2012 10:29pm
                            
                        That and OKC missed a ton of early shots. Got down by 18 I believe.Hb31187;1200451 wrote:Wade and Lebron finally figure out theyre not jump shooters lol?
jhay78
                                                                            
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                                Jun 14, 2012 10:29pm
                            
                        
                                Thunder fortunate to be down only 12.
Ibaka's finger wag was awesome.
                        Ibaka's finger wag was awesome.
Hb31187
                                                                            
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                                Jun 14, 2012 10:33pm
                            
                        
                                James is unstoppable when he puts his head down and goes to the hoop like that.   I dont know why he just flat out goes away from it
                            
                        Terry_Tate
                                                                            
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                                Jun 14, 2012 10:34pm
                            
                        
                                Wonder why Nick Collision isn't playing more? Is he hurt? Thought he did a good job in game 1.
                            
                        robj55
                                                                            
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                                Jun 14, 2012 10:35pm
                            
                        Wondering the same, he is better than Perkins for this match up.Terry_Tate;1200459 wrote:Wonder why Nick Collision isn't playing more? Is he hurt? Thought he did a good job in game 1.
Hb31187
                                                                            
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                                Jun 14, 2012 10:35pm
                            
                        
                                I'll say it again...I hate that charges are a part of the game no matter who they go against.
                            
                        Tiger2003
                                                                            
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                                Jun 14, 2012 10:35pm
                            
                        
                                Durant gotta be smart.