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hasbeen

Excuse me, Flo?

6,504 posts
May 23, 2012 9:55 PM
WebFire;1180162 wrote:If it directly affected my health and my right to enjoy the establishment? Yes.
Who say's you have a right to enjoy an establishment?
May 23, 2012 9:55pm
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WebFire

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May 23, 2012 9:57 PM
pnhasbeen;1180167 wrote:Who say's you have a right to enjoy an establishment?
I knew that would be the response. I think anyone who is open and serves the public should be treated like a public place. Otherwise, make it a private establishment.
May 23, 2012 9:57pm
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hasbeen

Excuse me, Flo?

6,504 posts
May 23, 2012 10:00 PM
WebFire;1180175 wrote:I knew that would be the response. I think anyone who is open and serves the public should be treated like a public place. Otherwise, make it a private establishment.
A private establishment? Meaning a members only club? Or how about a public establishment that has certain procedures that keep some of the public away?
You have the right to go to an establishment I own, but that doesn't mean I have to make sure you enjoy your stay. If you don't like it, don't come back. Free market.
May 23, 2012 10:00pm
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WebFire

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May 23, 2012 10:02 PM
pnhasbeen;1180183 wrote:A private establishment? Meaning a members only club? Or how about a public establishment that has certain procedures that keep some of the public away?
You have the right to go to an establishment I own, but that doesn't mean I have to make sure you enjoy your stay. If you don't like it, don't come back. Free market.
I'd be fine with that if we weren't talking about health issues. Passing a law to ensure good waitress service would be retarded.
May 23, 2012 10:02pm
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Sonofanump

May 23, 2012 10:09 PM
pnhasbeen;1180165 wrote:that's reasonable. But as long as the smoke isn't near the cooking and there are sections, like most restaurants used to do, I don't think it should matter.
So the employees have no rights?
May 23, 2012 10:09pm
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hasbeen

Excuse me, Flo?

6,504 posts
May 23, 2012 10:12 PM
Sonofanump;1180219 wrote:So the employees have no rights?
Who says you have to work in a smoking environment? I'm okay with not allowing smoking in restaurants/bars as long as it is decided by the free market.
May 23, 2012 10:12pm
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WebFire

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May 23, 2012 10:16 PM
pnhasbeen;1180225 wrote:Who says you have to work in a smoking environment? I'm okay with not allowing smoking in restaurants/bars as long as it is decided by the free market.
Well it was decided by vote. That's close enough for me. :D
May 23, 2012 10:16pm
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hasbeen

Excuse me, Flo?

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May 23, 2012 10:19 PM
WebFire;1180232 wrote:Well it was decided by vote. That's close enough for me. :D
touche'
May 23, 2012 10:19pm
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Sonofanump

May 23, 2012 10:20 PM
pnhasbeen;1180225 wrote:Who says you have to work in a smoking environment? I'm okay with not allowing smoking in restaurants/bars as long as it is decided by the free market.
I guess you could sit at home on your ass and collect from the government or die a slow death from cancer poison from second hand smoke. Sounds reasonable enough in today's socialist society.
May 23, 2012 10:20pm
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hasbeen

Excuse me, Flo?

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May 23, 2012 10:21 PM
Sonofanump;1180245 wrote:I guess you could sit at home on your ass and collect from the government or die a slow death from cancer poison from second hand smoke. Sounds reasonable enough in today's socialist society.
Let's have the government control every aspect of our lives. That's better. We shouldn't fuck because we could breed murderers.
May 23, 2012 10:21pm
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Sonofanump

May 23, 2012 10:26 PM
Where did we go from protecting us from cancerous poison to eugenics? I guess I find no logic in that comparison. </SPAN>
May 23, 2012 10:26pm
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hasbeen

Excuse me, Flo?

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May 23, 2012 10:36 PM
Sonofanump;1180257 wrote:Where did we go from protecting us from cancerous poison to eugenics? I guess I find no logic in that comparison.
I don't need or want protection. If I want to go to a restaurant and eat with smoke in the air, I should be allowed to be that dumb.
May 23, 2012 10:36pm
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mella

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May 23, 2012 10:40 PM
Fab1b;1179920 wrote:Lung cancer is not just caused by smoking. People get lung cancer that never smoked in their life and I am not defending I hate cig

smoke!!
totally agree, that's why I directed it at smokers. I had an aunt die from lung cancer and her sister was so upset that she smoked all the way to the cemetary in the same car with my uncle. My uncle was really pissed off and it almost caused a huge scene at the burial.
May 23, 2012 10:40pm
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Sonofanump

May 23, 2012 10:40 PM
I see that this is going nowhere. Have a good night.
May 23, 2012 10:40pm
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friendfromlowry

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6,239 posts
May 23, 2012 10:43 PM
Cigarette smoking is one thing I just never understood. Are there any smokers here?
May 23, 2012 10:43pm
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Early Cuyler

Sonny LIED!!!

1,097 posts
May 23, 2012 11:33 PM
Chew > Cigarettes

#realtalk
May 23, 2012 11:33pm
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martyirish

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May 24, 2012 9:39 AM
this was a good SMART decision
May 24, 2012 9:39am
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Big_Mirg_ZHS

Recovering Pothead

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May 24, 2012 12:02 PM
Let's continue to treat us as second class citizens. That's real nice of ya supreme court.
May 24, 2012 12:02pm
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ernest_t_bass

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May 24, 2012 12:10 PM
Sonofanump;1180245 wrote:I guess you could sit at home on your ass and collect from the government or die a slow death from cancer poison from second hand smoke. Sounds reasonable enough in today's socialist society.
That's like begging Isadore to come here. Don't do that.
May 24, 2012 12:10pm
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Gblock

May 24, 2012 12:38 PM
there are plenty of bars that just plain dont respect this law especially in smaller towns
May 24, 2012 12:38pm
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Mooney44Cards

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2,754 posts
May 24, 2012 12:44 PM
This is true that a lot of bars don't enforce this law, so the smokers can go to those bars. Nobody is forcing them to go to the ones that enforce it.
May 24, 2012 12:44pm
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vball10set

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May 24, 2012 1:04 PM
Big_Mirg_ZHS;1180577 wrote:Let's continue to treat us as second class citizens. That's real nice of ya supreme court.
:confused:
May 24, 2012 1:04pm
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Big_Mirg_ZHS

Recovering Pothead

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May 24, 2012 1:25 PM
vball10set;1180647 wrote::confused:
Whats so confusing??
May 24, 2012 1:25pm
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cruiser_96

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May 24, 2012 1:35 PM
Scarlet_Buckeye;1180723 wrote:Hallelujah!
Leave your fairy tale gods out of this.

/Sleeper'd
May 24, 2012 1:35pm