Con_Alma;1173474 wrote:If people can't do their jobs put an effort into getting people in that can.

You are not going to replace poor parents. Losing battle.



Enforce the rules and let parents parent.

That sounds good in theory only. The reality is that many parents aren't doing their job.

Glory Days;1173443 wrote:haha yes i know, but its funny how that logic can apply sometimes, but not all the times.



hahah what? you mean the statistics and reason that show you cant stop the drugs, might as well legalize it? thats about 99% of the arguments and you know it.

i mean, you actually think you are going to change human nature by trying to stop bullying? and what if statistics showed bullying(or atleast the effects of bullying such as suicides) isnt on the rise?

No, the statistics and reason that show that the drug war actually makes violence related to drugs and abuse of drugs worse. Or we can look at real world examples like Portugal or really any sort of prohibition in the past in the US even of alcohol. Prohibition resulted in a pretty damn sharp increase in organized crime and some brutal shit happening.

If the end game that you're shooting for with the drug war is to lesson violence and damage from the drug trade then you should end the damn drug war. It's really not that complex but you've got such a hard on for any type of authority that you'll never see less police, less arrests, less any sort of enforcement as a good thing.

Steel Valley Football;1173614 wrote:That sounds good in theory only. The reality is that many parents aren't doing their job.

I understand that. A school is not going to be able to change what a parent hasn't done. A school can enforce the rules in place.

I Wear Pants;1173927 wrote:No, the statistics and reason that show that the drug war actually makes violence related to drugs and abuse of drugs worse. Or we can look at real world examples like Portugal or really any sort of prohibition in the past in the US even of alcohol. Prohibition resulted in a pretty damn sharp increase in organized crime and some brutal shit happening.

If the end game that you're shooting for with the drug war is to lesson violence and damage from the drug trade then you should end the damn drug war. It's really not that complex but you've got such a hard on for any type of authority that you'll never see less police, less arrests, less any sort of enforcement as a good thing.

yes, portugal....a country the size of new york is exactly comparable to the US. and you could look at the netherlands...and how they are considering recriminalizing drugs. but yes, statistics, of which you have ZERO statistics showing bullying is any sort of a problem or that even anything can be done about it. and dont even forget that bullying....like the "war on drugs" is a pretty vague term. and how could you say there is more violence because of the drug war? you comparing it to prohibition that is 70 years ago? if kids werent singled out because they were getting picked on, they would probably get picked on less. the kids who whine and complain, are likely to be the target of bullying.

Please don't turn this into a thread about the war on drugs

Mooney44Cards;1174321 wrote:Please don't turn this into a thread about the war on drugs

Please don't turn this into a thread about the war on the war on drugs.

Mooney44Cards;1174321 wrote:Please don't turn this into a thread about the war on drugs

cruiser_96;1174325 wrote:Please don't turn this into a thread about the war on the war on drugs.

Sheesh, talk about bullies!

Glory Days;1174874 wrote:Sheesh, talk about bullies!

I see what you did there...

Bullies that say "please", maybe that's what we'll get from teaching them to be nicer to people?