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isadore
Posts: 7,762
May 18, 2012 10:30am
i am sorry you would not vote to stop the extension of slavery, what a horrendous stand to take. While not supporting the candidate who showed that he was willing to alter his core beliefs to support greater tolerance. so that he would be the first president to support suffrage to black veterandCon_Alma;1174970 wrote:Yes, I would not have voted for Lincoln because he did not at the time of the election believe a black man should be able to vote.
Would you vote for Lincoln knowing he didn't believe that a black man should be able to vote?
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
May 18, 2012 10:33am
At least you finally understand the consistency of my post. I do not vote for candidates that do not believe a black person should vote.isadore;1175025 wrote:i am sorry you would not vote to stop the extension of slavery, what a horrendous stand to take. While not supporting the candidate who showed that he was willing to alter his core beliefs to support greater tolerance. so that he would be the first president to support suffrage to black veterand
Would you vote for a candidate that did not believe a black person should vote?
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
May 18, 2012 11:16am
Maybe the Black man vote should only count as 3/5th of a vote. Then the GOP might win this time around.:laugh:
fish82
Posts: 4,111
May 18, 2012 11:46am
It's starting to look like 5/3 might be more helpful.Footwedge;1175083 wrote:Maybe the Black man vote should only count as 3/5th of a vote. Then the GOP might win this time around.:laugh:
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gut
Posts: 15,058
May 18, 2012 12:16pm
If Obama wants to motivate all the poor/welfare voters to come out for him, maybe he should tie benefits to voting. Maybe Romney made fun of some handicapped kid in highschool and Obama can rally those voters, too.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
May 18, 2012 1:12pm
you would have aided those who wanted to spread slavery.Con_Alma;1175032 wrote:At least you finally understand the consistency of my post. I do not vote for candidates that do not believe a black person should vote.
Would you vote for a candidate that did not believe a black person should vote?
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
May 18, 2012 1:38pm
I thought we have already made those respective points. I wouldn't not have voted in that election based on the fact that I would not vote for a candidate that doesn't believe a black man should vote. Your conclusion has been duly noted.isadore;1175159 wrote:you would have aided those who wanted to spread slavery.
Would you vote for a candidate that doesn't believe a back man should vote?
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
May 18, 2012 2:13pm
As I said in 2012 I would not vote for any candidate who would not support black suffrage. And you in 1860 would have refused to vote for the only candidate who opposed the expansion of slavery and there by would have contributed to the extension of human suffering.Con_Alma;1175177 wrote:I thought we have already made those respective points. I wouldn't not have voted in that election based on the fact that I would not vote for a candidate that doesn't believe a black man should vote. Your conclusion has been duly noted.
Would you vote for a candidate that doesn't believe a back man should vote?
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
May 18, 2012 6:05pm
Don't forget the women...their vote should only count as 1/12 of a vote.fish82;1175107 wrote:It's starting to look like 5/3 might be more helpful.
fish82
Posts: 4,111
May 18, 2012 7:37pm
That's problematic, since Mittens is up 3 points with them.Footwedge;1175436 wrote:Don't forget the women...their vote should only count as 1/12 of a vote.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
May 18, 2012 10:14pm
I didn't ask about complete black suffrage support and I am aware of what I would refuse to vote for,isadore;1175206 wrote:As I said in 2012 I would not vote for any candidate who would not support black suffrage. And you in 1860 would have refused to vote for the only candidate who opposed the expansion of slavery and there by would have contributed to the extension of human suffering.
Would you vote for a person who didn't believe a black man should vote?
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
May 18, 2012 10:18pm
He will literally never answer that question con. You might as well stop.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
May 18, 2012 10:26pm
Probably not but that's the point. You're right ...I will have to eventually.
It's his same type of attempted entrapment.
It's his same type of attempted entrapment.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
May 18, 2012 10:29pm
there is still time for redemptionCon_Alma;1175563 wrote:Probably not but that's the point. You're right ...I will have to eventually.
It's his same type of attempted entrapment.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
May 18, 2012 10:30pm
No need. The posts are redeeming enough. He does all the work!
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
May 18, 2012 10:31pm
"As I said in 2012 I would not vote for any candidate who would not support black suffrage.Con_Alma;1175557 wrote:I didn't ask about complete black suffrage support and I am aware of what I would refuse to vote for,
Would you vote for a person who didn't believe a black man should vote?
I am sorry that George Washington and Abe lincoln would not receive your vote.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
May 18, 2012 10:35pm
That's not the question. I've never mentioned President Washington nor President Lincoln. I am not asking you about them. Those were your reference people and examples.isadore;1175567 wrote:"As I said in 2012 I would not vote for any candidate who would not support black suffrage.
I am sorry that George Washington and Abe lincoln would not receive your vote.
Would you vote for a candidate that didn't believe a black man should vote?
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
May 18, 2012 10:59pm
i answered that and you answered that you would not vote for Washington or lincoln.Con_Alma;1175570 wrote:That's not the question. I've never mentioned President Washington nor President Lincoln. I am not asking you about them. Those were your reference people and examples.
Would you vote for a candidate that didn't believe a black man should vote?
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
May 18, 2012 11:14pm
There's not one post with such an answer from you. All of your responses have changed criteria. My question is much more simple and less conditional.isadore;1175579 wrote:i answered that and you answered that you would not vote for Washington or lincoln.
Would you vote for a candidate that did not believe a black man should vote?
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
May 18, 2012 11:32pm
during the time of my existence i would have voted only for candidates who supported black suffrage. While you have extended your vote to periods preceding your existence to state you would have not voted for lincoln and by doing so aided the forces wishing to extend slavery.Con_Alma;1175589 wrote:There's not one post with such an answer from you. All of your responses have changed criteria. My question is much more simple and less conditional.
Would you vote for a candidate that did not believe a black man should vote?
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
May 18, 2012 11:45pm
isadore, you are trying to argue a point by using Abraham Lincoln. A different time, a different world, and the dude has been dead for ages. You, at that time, would've most definitely been in favor of slavery. So shut the fuck up about this retarded argument. Use something that is relevant to today.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
May 19, 2012 12:04am
1. If you read the thread you would understand why I selected Lincoln, Con feels it is wrong for people to change their core beliefs. Lincoln is a man who did and that change helped improve our society.DeyDurkie5;1175595 wrote:isadore, you are trying to argue a point by using Abraham Lincoln. A different time, a different world, and the dude has been dead for ages. You, at that time, would've most definitely been in favor of slavery. So shut the **** up about this retarded argument. Use something that is relevant to today.
2. Because of Con’s view he has stated he has stated he would not have voted for Lincoln in 1860, even though that action would have aided those who wished to extend slavery into new territory.
3. No I wouldn’t have been for slavery. It is bad.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
May 19, 2012 7:44am
That's not the question.isadore;1175593 wrote:during the time of my existence i would have voted only for candidates who supported black suffrage. While you have extended your vote to periods preceding your existence to state you would have not voted for lincoln and by doing so aided the forces wishing to extend slavery.
I agree, I would not have voted for Lincoln.
Would you vote for a candidate the doesn't believe a back man should vote?
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
May 19, 2012 7:45am
This is not. true. It is not for me to decide if it's worn or not wrong for a person to changes their beliefs. What I have stated is I that would prefer a person who is steadfast in their core convictions.isadore;1175599 wrote:1. If you read the thread you would understand why I selected Lincoln, Con feels it is wrong for people to change their core beliefs. Lincoln is a man who did and that change helped improve our society....
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
May 19, 2012 8:44am
We all make mistakes in our statements. I do especially if I have had a couple of beers. Are you drinking in the mornings again?Con_Alma wrote:
Would you vote for a candidate the doesn't believe a back man should vote? …. This is not. true.