Pitbulls are for poor stupid people

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Automatik
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Jun 19, 2012 10:19am
Devils Advocate;1204369 wrote: 8. I'm going to out on a limb and say Get the fuck out of the park if you think it is dangerous!

Um can you not read? The decision has been MADE. If the dog attacks, he will die. How and with what? TBD. :laugh:
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isadore
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Jun 19, 2012 10:20am
Devils Advocate;1204386 wrote:

<big><big></big></big>

<big><big><center>Cause of Death</center></big></big>

Number of Deaths


Rate per 100,000

<big><big>65 years and over &#8211; All causes</big></big>

1,717,218


5,071.4

Diseases of heart

612,886


1,810.0

Malignant neoplasms, including neoplasms of lymphatic and hematopoietic tissues


386,092



1,140.2

Cerebrovascular diseases

140,938


416.2

Chronic obstructive pulmonary diseases and allied conditions

91,624


270.6

Pneumonia (98.5% of deaths)
and Influenza (1.5%)


73,968


218.4

Diabetes mellitus

46,194


136.4

Accidents @ and adverse effects

30,564


90.3

&#8211;&#8211;Motor&#8211;vehicle accidents

7,539


22.3

&#8211;&#8211;All other accidents and adverse effects

23,025


68

Nephritis, Nephrotic Syndrome, and Nephrosis

20,955


61.9

Alzheimer's disease

20,848


61.6

Septicemia
Nope no pitbulls...
1-4 years All causes 5,947 38.3
1 Accidents and adverse effects 2,155 13.9
. . . Motor vehicle accidents 834 5.4
. . . All other accidents and adverse effects 1,321 8.5
2 Congenital anomalies 633 4.1
3 Malignant neoplasms, including neoplasms of lymphatic and hematopoietic tissues 440 2.8
4 Homicide and legal intervention 395 2.5
5 Diseases of heart 207 1.3
6 Pneumonia and influenze 167 1.1
7 Human immunodeficiency virus infection 149 1
8 Septicemia 74 0.5
9 Benign neoplasms, carcinoma in situ, and neoplasms of uncertain behavior and of unspecified nature 71 0.5
10 Certain conditions originating in the perinatal period 69 0.4
Still no pitbulls HMMMMMMM......
and no rattlesnakes either, I guess we should put one in every home.
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se-alum
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Jun 19, 2012 10:22am
I would imagine instinct would take over and you would just beat the shit out of the dog.
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O-Trap
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Jun 19, 2012 10:22am
isadore;1204388 wrote:and Pit Bulls are instinctual killers who seek out the weakest prey for the kill.
Random statements without fact substantiation? Okay.

I have a purple elephant in my closet.
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Devils Advocate
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Jun 19, 2012 10:23am
Automatik;1204390 wrote:Um can you not read? The decision has been MADE. If the dog attacks, he will die. How and with what? TBD. :laugh:
It is beyon me that the OP is obviouslt a battered spouse, but he thinks he can take on a vicious,rabid,calculated killer pitbull..
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Raw Dawgin' it
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Jun 19, 2012 10:25am
se-alum;1204393 wrote:I would imagine instinct would take over and you would just beat the shit out of the dog.
Good luck with that...their jaws are much stronger than you.
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Devils Advocate
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Jun 19, 2012 10:26am
isadore;1204392 wrote:and no rattlesnakes either, I guess we should put one in every home.
Statistically, If I were worried about granny,gramps, or little joey, I would rather have a rattlesnake or a pitbull than a swimming pool or bicycle.
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Devils Advocate
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Jun 19, 2012 10:27am
O-Trap;1204394 wrote:Random statements without fact substantiation? Okay.

I have a purple elephant in my closet.
This is a great start for another religious thread. :)
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O-Trap
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Jun 19, 2012 10:29am
Raw Dawgin' it;1204396 wrote:Good luck with that...their jaws are much stronger than you.
Good lord, they're not alligators. A grown man, even with a bigger dog latched onto his arm could kill it. Yes, they have strong jaws (but the jaws don't lock, like people think), but something latched onto my arm that weighs 45 pounds is getting beat to hell.
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O-Trap
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Jun 19, 2012 10:30am
Devils Advocate;1204400 wrote:This is a great start for another religious thread. :)
I actually use that example in defense of beliefs in general. ;)
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Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Jun 19, 2012 10:32am
O-Trap;1204403 wrote:Good lord, they're not alligators. A grown man, even with a bigger dog latched onto his arm could kill it. Yes, they have strong jaws (but the jaws don't lock, like people think), but something latched onto my arm that weighs 45 pounds is getting beat to hell.
Honestly - i don't think you or I could take down an attacking pitbull or german shepard. Just my opinion, but i'd watch if you wanted to try.
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isadore
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Jun 19, 2012 10:32am
O-Trap;1204394 wrote:Random statements without fact substantiation? Okay.

I have a purple elephant in my closet.
dogs are basically wolves and wolves operate on that principle of finding the weakest prey to kill.
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Jun 19, 2012 10:35am
Devils Advocate;1204386 wrote:

<big><big></big></big>

<big><big><center>Cause of Death</center></big></big>

Number of Deaths


Rate per 100,000

<big><big>65 years and over &#8211; All causes</big></big>

1,717,218


5,071.4

Diseases of heart

612,886


1,810.0

Malignant neoplasms, including neoplasms of lymphatic and hematopoietic tissues


386,092



1,140.2

Cerebrovascular diseases

140,938


416.2

Chronic obstructive pulmonary diseases and allied conditions

91,624


270.6

Pneumonia (98.5% of deaths)
and Influenza (1.5%)


73,968


218.4

Diabetes mellitus

46,194


136.4

Accidents @ and adverse effects

30,564


90.3

&#8211;&#8211;Motor&#8211;vehicle accidents

7,539


22.3

&#8211;&#8211;All other accidents and adverse effects

23,025


68

Nephritis, Nephrotic Syndrome, and Nephrosis

20,955


61.9

Alzheimer's disease

20,848


61.6

Septicemia
Nope no pitbulls...
1-4 years All causes 5,947 38.3
1 Accidents and adverse effects 2,155 13.9
. . . Motor vehicle accidents 834 5.4
. . . All other accidents and adverse effects 1,321 8.5
2 Congenital anomalies 633 4.1
3 Malignant neoplasms, including neoplasms of lymphatic and hematopoietic tissues 440 2.8
4 Homicide and legal intervention 395 2.5
5 Diseases of heart 207 1.3
6 Pneumonia and influenze 167 1.1
7 Human immunodeficiency virus infection 149 1
8 Septicemia 74 0.5
9 Benign neoplasms, carcinoma in situ, and neoplasms of uncertain behavior and of unspecified nature 71 0.5
10 Certain conditions originating in the perinatal period 69 0.4
Still no pitbulls HMMMMMMM......
gosh a ruddies. We should outlaw those killer motor-vehicles.
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O-Trap
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Jun 19, 2012 10:41am
Raw Dawgin' it;1204410 wrote:Honestly - i don't think you or I could take down an attacking pitbull or german shepard. Just my opinion, but i'd watch if you wanted to try.
I did this with a doberman. Isadore posted an article where a guy did it with a pit.

Honestly, what is it that makes people so scared of angry dogs? They're smaller. They're not as smart (sans isadore, who apparently thinks they're evil geniuses by comparison). They don't have the balance to stand on two legs. They can't grab. They have teeth, sure. So do you and I. Seems like that's their ONLY advantage if you turn and face them instead of running away.
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O-Trap
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Jun 19, 2012 10:43am
isadore;1204412 wrote:dogs are basically wolves and wolves operate on that principle of finding the weakest prey to kill.
1. You just showed a complete lack of speciation. They aren't "basically wolves." They have genetic similarities, due to the close species relationship, but they're not "basically wolves," you dunce.

2. You also just suggested that ALL dogs are genius killers that will hunt the weak.

3. ANYONE intending to kill goes after the weak.
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Raw Dawgin' it
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Jun 19, 2012 10:44am
O-Trap;1204421 wrote:I did this with a doberman. Isadore posted an article where a guy did it with a pit.

Honestly, what is it that makes people so scared of angry dogs? They're smaller. They're not as smart (sans isadore, who apparently thinks they're evil geniuses by comparison). They don't have the balance to stand on two legs. They can't grab. They have teeth, sure. So do you and I. Seems like that's their ONLY advantage if you turn and face them instead of running away.
Just my opinion - but you think you could get away from a police trained K9?
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Automatik
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Jun 19, 2012 10:46am
So my parent's 15lb Jack Russell is a wolf now??!?!?! WTF?
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lhslep134
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Jun 19, 2012 10:47am
Jesus f*cking christ this is the stupidest argument ever. Isadore is a clown, pit bulls MIGHT be more predispositioned toward violence but even assuming the truth of that statement, it has NO BEARING on any individual pit bull or situation.
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gorocks99
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Jun 19, 2012 10:52am
Merged with the poor stupid people thread. That way we can keep track of everyone's pitbull arguments together, hooray!
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LJ
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Jun 19, 2012 10:53am
Automatik;1204430 wrote:So my parent's 15lb Jack Russell is a wolf now??!?!?! WTF?
Yes. Plz be carful
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BR1986FB
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Jun 19, 2012 10:54am
LJ;1204443 wrote:Yes. Plz be carful
We bought a dog on Saturday which weighs all of 2 lbs soaking wet. I doubt it gets much bigger. I'll have to sleep with one eye open.
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O-Trap
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Jun 19, 2012 10:56am
Raw Dawgin' it;1204427 wrote:Just my opinion - but you think you could get away from a police trained K9?
Get away? Not at all. I'm slower than molasses in January.

But I think any grown man my size could man-handle it.
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O-Trap
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Jun 19, 2012 11:15am
ccrunner609;1204455 wrote:i havent read any of this thread but I would agree that the average pitbull owner is undereducated and flirting with the poverty line.
And this is based on your professional opinion in census-taking?
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O-Trap
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Jun 19, 2012 11:21am
ccrunner609;1204463 wrote:No the ability over the past 20 years to know that I have NEVER seen a pitbull in a yard or with a person from a nice community or anywhere close.....but as soon as you drive in the hood you see them.


I have ran 20,000+ miles iin my life all over the place. I havent seen one in any of the country club neighborhoods around where I live but see them in town all the time.
So, per your anecdote, and per your own assertion that you know the difference between a pit bull breed versus some boxer mixes, American bulldog mixes, etc.

Gotcha.
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Jun 19, 2012 11:24am
Since this is now in the basement someone can let isadore back in.