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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
May 2, 2012 5:01pm
I like the consumption tax plan for a few reasons. The rich will pay more taxes because most are going to be purchasing more expensive items. The tax would be taken at the time of the purchase or in payments thereafter closing a good amount of the loopholes in the curent system.
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mella
Posts: 647
May 2, 2012 5:46pm
flat tax for everyone and a 7% consumption tax on everything except groceries. All schools can be private. Make pot legal and tax it at the consumption tax rate. 3 strike felons get the death penalty within 2 weeks with no appeal.
Mooney44Cards
Posts: 2,754
May 2, 2012 6:12pm
Just chiming in to say that USPS is a completely self sustained entity which receives zero tax dollars.Commander of Awesome;1159644 wrote:No, I like roads, police, mail, etc...
Carry on everyone.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 2, 2012 6:34pm
False.Mooney44Cards;1160338 wrote:Just chiming in to say that USPS is a completely self sustained entity which receives zero tax dollars.
Carry on everyone.
http://thechiefleader.com/news/open_articles/union-usps-angry-about-senate-s-postal-bailout-bill/article_60a6a510-93a4-11e1-80bc-001a4bcf6878.html
believer
Posts: 8,153
May 2, 2012 6:42pm
Bingo...and yet another way the politicians can spend our money.gut;1159860 wrote:And the cute trick a VAT pulls is since you are now taxing consumption, you create a massive deferred revenue asset on the govt balance sheet that represents taxing a second time savings that were already taxed when earned as income.
Mooney44Cards
Posts: 2,754
May 2, 2012 6:43pm
It is no more tax-payer funded than GM or Chrysler. I understand people disagree with the bailouts, for good reason, but those companies are not funded by tax dollars. A one-time bailout notwithstanding.
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oletiger
Posts: 166
May 2, 2012 6:46pm
USPS solvent hahahahahahahahaa
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sjmvsfscs08
Posts: 2,963
May 2, 2012 6:55pm
People who think a 0% tax would be a good thing are morons.
said_aouita
Posts: 8,532
May 2, 2012 6:59pm
Kinda like it is now. I love how the union for the road/parking lot pavers "pad" employees hours the end of the summer. They end up collecting more unemployment, which is bull shit anyways. They are capable of working all year, they just chose not to.sleeper;1159828 wrote:If said private company wants to overpay for labor, then sure.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
May 2, 2012 7:08pm
Theoretically you would tax just all goods and services. Practically you have the same issues of progressive taxation vs. such a flat tax, avoidance/evasion (and black markets) and the requisite enforcement as a result, plus the transition shock of paying another 30% or whatever for those goods and services.sjmvsfscs08;1160380 wrote:People who think a 0% tax would be a good thing are morons.
The existing tax/revenue structure is never going to be able to support current levels (and trends) in govt spending, I don't care what rates and brackets you want to throw out there. Europe taxes pretty much everything we do, at generally higher rates, PLUS they have a VAT. I believe it's coming. Current GovX is not sustainable without finding new/additional revenue streams.
Ytowngirlinfla
Posts: 2,295
May 2, 2012 8:58pm
I don't mind paying taxes but I truly believe that Active Duty Military should not have to pay income tax. It would give me about $350 more a month which would be nice.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
May 2, 2012 9:00pm
Typical, you def shouldn't have to pay income tax sitting on a base in San Diego. /sarcasmYtowngirlinfla;1160480 wrote:I don't mind paying taxes but I truly believe that Active Duty Military should not have to pay income tax. It would give me about $350 more a month which would be nice.
GTFO with that garbage. You're in a war zone, sure I guess. In SD, excuse me while I LMAO. Get over yourself.
Ytowngirlinfla
Posts: 2,295
May 2, 2012 9:07pm
You're an asshole period. We don't pay tax in a warzone.Commander of Awesome;1160482 wrote:Typical, you def shouldn't have to pay income tax sitting on a base in San Diego. /sarcasm
GTFO with that garbage. You're in a war zone, sure I guess. In SD, excuse me while I LMAO. Get over yourself.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
May 2, 2012 9:08pm
No. I prefer being employed. Most Americans dont realize we have it pretty good tax-wise compared to the rest of the world. Always have to bitch about something though.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
May 2, 2012 9:09pm
Typical failsponse. I even said in a war zone sure. Not surprised that went over your head.Ytowngirlinfla;1160486 wrote:You're an asshole period. We don't pay tax in a warzone.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
May 2, 2012 9:10pm
No kidding, see poster above you. Always looking for special privileges. SMH, typical. She conviently leaves out, FREE housing, cheaper gas, beer, schooling paid for if you so chose, etc... She has ZERO room to talk and complain.Pick6;1160489 wrote:No. I prefer being employed. Most Americans dont realize we have it pretty good tax-wise compared to the rest of the world. Always have to bitch about something though.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
May 2, 2012 9:10pm
Give them back the money that was taken from their revenue many years agao and see where they are at.oletiger;1160372 wrote:USPS solvent hahahahahahahahaa
It may be different or they may still be straddled with high pension costs that can't be sustained with shrinking revenue forecasted to continue.
Ytowngirlinfla
Posts: 2,295
May 2, 2012 9:11pm
Oh yeah totally looking for special privileges. Please. Get a fucking life. There are a lot of people barely making it in the Military. I'm not talking about myself.Commander of Awesome;1160492 wrote:No kidding, see poster above you. Always looking for special privileges. SMH, typical.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
May 2, 2012 9:14pm
If you are active duty and barely making it, its nobodies fault but their own.Ytowngirlinfla;1160494 wrote:Oh yeah totally looking for special privileges. Please. Get a fucking life. There are a lot of people barely making it in the Military. I'm not talking about myself.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
May 2, 2012 9:14pm
The enlisted members of the military get all those special privileges that he just listed.Ytowngirlinfla;1160494 wrote:Oh yeah totally looking for special privileges. Please. Get a fucking life. There are a lot of people barely making it in the Military. I'm not talking about myself.
Hope this helps.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
May 2, 2012 9:15pm
Exactly.Pick6;1160497 wrote:If you are active duty and barely making it, its nobodies fault but their own.
When you are offered free housing, free meals, discounted groceries, discounted shopping. You are being a complete idiot if you are barely making it.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
May 2, 2012 9:15pm
Nope it's our fault for making them pay income tax. /failtowngirlinflaPick6;1160497 wrote:If you are active duty and barely making it, its nobodies fault but their own.
Ytowngirlinfla
Posts: 2,295
May 2, 2012 9:16pm
Yeah because people with families can live off of say E3 pay barely. That's 600 every 2 weeks.Pick6;1160497 wrote:If you are active duty and barely making it, its nobodies fault but their own.
Ytowngirlinfla
Posts: 2,295
May 2, 2012 9:18pm
Who gets free meals?like_that;1160501 wrote:Exactly.
When you are offered free housing, free meals, discounted groceries, discounted shopping. You are being a complete idiot if you are barely making it.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
May 2, 2012 9:18pm
Maybe if both partners worked, aka no dead beat parents, wouldn't be an issue? That's $1,200 ever 2 weeks. Plus free housing, meals, etc... Keep on trying though, this is hilarious.Ytowngirlinfla;1160503 wrote:Yeah because people with families can live off of say E3 pay barely. That's 600 every 2 weeks.