Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
May 20, 2012 4:11pm
wes_mantooth;1176625 wrote:I flipped the game on for a minute...so two layups by the Pacers, then a touch foul to get things back under control. I will just check this thread for the score...i cant watch that ****...it is ridiculous.
Agreed and wade travels every time he touches the ball. Looks like David stern is scared Miami might lose and kill his ratings
chicago510
Posts: 5,728
May 20, 2012 4:11pm
Terrible sub pattern by the pacers. Can't leave your entire second unit out there against wade and james.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
May 20, 2012 4:12pm
robj55;1176630 wrote:jogging back on D half the time
He always does that how do you think he gets an easy 10 points off cherry picking a game. The difference is the pacers have caught on
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 20, 2012 4:12pm
Wade has been awful, but he gets a pass from the media. If Lebron scored 5 points in a playoff game we would hear about it for years. Wade has to be hurt the way he is playing.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
May 20, 2012 4:13pm
Wade is a champion. Bron is not.robj55;1176635 wrote:Wade has been awful, but he gets a pass from the media. If Lebron scored 5 points in a playoff game we would hear about it for years. Wade has to be hurt the way he is playing.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
May 20, 2012 4:13pm
robj55;1176635 wrote:Wade has been awful, but he gets a pass from the media. If Lebron scored 5 points in a playoff game we would hear about it for years. Wade has to be hurt the way he is playing.
Lol here comes the excuses already. Wade ain't hurt he just blows this series
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
May 20, 2012 4:13pm
ESPN is trying so hard to make LeBron look like a great playoff performer.
Cool, he has pretty stats. But what's he do when it matters most?
Cool, he has pretty stats. But what's he do when it matters most?
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
May 20, 2012 4:14pm
Have they said anything more about his knee? Mike and Mike was saying that he is in bad shaperobj55;1176635 wrote:Wade has been awful, but he gets a pass from the media. If Lebron scored 5 points in a playoff game we would hear about it for years. Wade has to be hurt the way he is playing.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
May 20, 2012 4:16pm
Collison is so quick
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 20, 2012 4:16pm
You can't ignore what he has done, Aside from one game against Boston and 3 straight games in the finals he has be outstanding in the playoffs. Carried the Cavs and put up unreal numbers. Carried Miami against Chicago and Boston last year. You can't dismiss all the things he has done for a few mishaps, that's silly.hoops23;1176638 wrote:ESPN is trying so hard to make LeBron look like a great playoff performer.
Cool, he has pretty stats. But what's he do when it matters most?
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 20, 2012 4:17pm
He has been getting treatment since the mid part of the season.wes_mantooth;1176639 wrote:Have they said anything more about his knee? Mike and Mike was saying that he is in bad shape
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 20, 2012 4:17pm
Not an excuse, he is obviously not himself and they reported that he has been getting treatment.Crimson streak;1176637 wrote:Lol here comes the excuses already. Wade ain't hurt he just blows this series
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
May 20, 2012 4:18pm
Pretty stats mean nothing if he doesn't get it done when it matters, so yes I can.robj55;1176647 wrote:You can't ignore what he has done, Aside from one game against Boston and 3 straight games in the finals he has be outstanding in the playoffs. Carried the Cavs and put up unreal numbers. Carried Miami against Chicago and Boston last year. You can't dismiss all the things he has done for a few mishaps, that's silly.
To compare him to what Magic, MJ, or Bird did is stupid.
Miami had more talent than Dallas and Dirk willed Dallas to a title while LBJ melted away int he 4th Q's.
That stuff matters.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 20, 2012 4:18pm
So if he was awful in the playoffs for the rest of his career he would get a pass? That's ignorant.wildcats20;1176636 wrote:Wade is a champion. Bron is not.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
May 20, 2012 4:19pm
But you just said Wade is injured. LBJ would know that, so he knows he has to take over, right?robj55;1176653 wrote:So if he was awful in the playoffs for the rest of his career he would get a pass? That's ignorant.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 20, 2012 4:20pm
So one example over 9 years? What about all the other series where he single handedly carrier teams and kept them in it for 4 quarters of every game? Lebron is cursed, doesn't matter what he does he will never be able to live up to his own hype. People grade him on a different curve than any other player who has ever played this game. He could win 3 titles but that will never be enough.hoops23;1176652 wrote:Pretty stats mean nothing if he doesn't get it done when it matters, so yes I can.
To compare him to what Magic, MJ, or Bird did is stupid.
Miami had more talent than Dallas and Dirk willed Dallas to a title while LBJ melted away int he 4th Q's.
That stuff matters.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
May 20, 2012 4:20pm
Yes. That is the way it works.robj55;1176653 wrote:So if he was awful in the playoffs for the rest of his career he would get a pass? That's ignorant.
No one is talking shit about Dirk are they? He is a champion, champions get a pass for shitty performances.
chicago510
Posts: 5,728
May 20, 2012 4:21pm
robj55;1176647 wrote:You can't ignore what he has done, Aside from one game against Boston and 3 straight games in the finals he has be outstanding in the playoffs. Carried the Cavs and put up unreal numbers. Carried Miami against Chicago and Boston last year. You can't dismiss all the things he has done for a few mishaps, that's silly.
You say you can't ignore things, then in next breath you want us to ignore the worst games of his career.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 20, 2012 4:21pm
15, 5, and 4 in the first half? He's not Kobe, he's not going to take 35 shots with 20 of them being of the poor variety.hoops23;1176655 wrote:But you just said Wade is injured. LBJ would know that, so he knows he has to take over, right?
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
May 20, 2012 4:22pm
hoops23;1176655 wrote:But you just said Wade is injured. LBJ would know that, so he knows he has to take over, right?
If wade was hurt he would have cried to the media and been dramatic(not Paul pierce dramatic but close) on the court after last game or today. He's just not having shots fall
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 20, 2012 4:22pm
Not asking that at all, I acknowledge he came up small a few times. He shrank in the finals last year. Game 5 against Boston he looked out of it but he rebounded with a huge game 6.chicago510;1176658 wrote:You say you can't ignore things, then in next breath you want us to ignore the worst games of his career.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
May 20, 2012 4:22pm
The year the Cavs went to the Finals LBJ had an amazing game 5, but it was Boobie's amazing Game 6 that got the Cavs into the Finals.robj55;1176656 wrote:So one example over 9 years? What about all the other series where he single handedly carrier teams and kept them in it for 4 quarters of every game? Lebron is cursed, doesn't matter what he does he will never be able to live up to his own hype. People grade him on a different curve than any other player who has ever played this game. He could win 3 titles but that will never be enough.
Against Boston, Mo had more fire than LeBron did.
It's easy to put up stats when he wasn't on the better team, such as the first time the Cavs played Boston in 08 I believe... But when LBJ has expectations, he disappears as the game gets later.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
May 20, 2012 4:23pm
A professional athlete getting treatment in the playoffs and all season long is the norm.
robj55
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May 20, 2012 4:23pm
He doesn't look as explosive to me.Crimson streak;1176661 wrote:If wade was hurt he would have cried to the media and been dramatic(not Paul pierce dramatic but close) on the court after last game or today. He's just not having shots fall
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
May 20, 2012 4:23pm
Is pau a champion?