
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
May 12, 2012 12:11am
Both of them coudl coach circles around Paul Silas lol. But he obviously got let go after this record setting season

Laley23
Posts: 29,506
May 12, 2012 12:16am
Mike Brown is a better coach than Del Negro. No doubt in my mind. Brown led the Cavs to the best record and took them deep in the playoffs. The Bulls sucked with Del Negro, then go deep in the playoffs. I mean, he is under .500 in his career with some talented teams. Mike Brown has had better players, but he would have the Bulls/Clippers at over .500 more than once in 4 years.Fly4Fun;1168446 wrote:I see your Vinny Del Negro, and raise you a Mike Brown.
Silas aint in the league, as you mentioned. But yeah.Hb31187;1168447 wrote:Both of them coudl coach circles around Paul Silas lol. But he obviously got let go after this record setting season

Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
May 12, 2012 12:18am
Brown had LeBron and a good supporting cast. They only got to the finals once. His offense was/is notoriously bad. Your win % looks pretty good when you've only been a head coach of arguably the two best players in the league.Laley23;1168448 wrote:Mike Brown is a better coach than Del Negro. No doubt in my mind. Brown led the Cavs to the best record and took them deep in the playoffs. The Bulls sucked with Del Negro, then go deep in the playoffs. I mean, he is under .500 in his career with some talented teams. Mike Brown has had better players, but he would have the Bulls/Clippers at over .500 more than once in 4 years.
Silas aint in the league, as you mentioned. But yeah.

chicago510
Posts: 5,728
May 12, 2012 12:19am
VDN is by far the worst coach in the league. He has no credentials to be coaching these teams.Laley23;1168448 wrote:Mike Brown is a better coach than Del Negro. No doubt in my mind. Brown led the Cavs to the best record and took them deep in the playoffs. The Bulls sucked with Del Negro, then go deep in the playoffs. I mean, he is under .500 in his career with some talented teams. Mike Brown has had better players, but he would have the Bulls/Clippers at over .500 more than once in 4 years.

Laley23
Posts: 29,506
May 12, 2012 12:21am
....and Mike Brown would have had BOTH Bulls teams at better than 41-41 and 7th/8th seeds. Mike Brown is not a great coach, but he is better than a few in the NBA. Hell, Id argue his terrible offense is better than Del Negros. Have you watched the Clippers this year/playoffs???Fly4Fun;1168450 wrote:Brown had LeBron and a good supporting cast. They only got to the finals once. His offense was/is notoriously bad. Your win % looks pretty good when you've only been a head coach of arguably the two best players in the league.

robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 12, 2012 12:55am
Mike Woodson is a pretty good defensive coach, but his offensive coaching ability is garbage. Anyone who watched that mess of a half court offense while he was in Atlanta knows what I'm talking about.

Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
May 12, 2012 1:23am
ESPN really is the worst. I love this "reaction" piece to the Clippers/Grizzlies game.
Blake got a A-, Paul got a B, Bledsoe a A-, and the rest of the team a B+
Then they have one little snipet about how the Grizzlies got a B-
ESPN is all about the large market teams and that's it. I don't care that the Clippers had a few "injured" but playing players. They lost a home game with a chance to close out the series, the Grizzlies outscored the Clippers 17-4 to end the game. At least talk about Zach Randolph's effort in a beastly double-double. Or talk about Marc Gasol or Mike Conley. Nope, they chose to focus on the losing team and rated them higher than the team that won.
The worst.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/notebook/_/page/lobcityledger-120511/los-angeles-clippers-vs-memphis-grizzlies
Blake got a A-, Paul got a B, Bledsoe a A-, and the rest of the team a B+
Then they have one little snipet about how the Grizzlies got a B-
ESPN is all about the large market teams and that's it. I don't care that the Clippers had a few "injured" but playing players. They lost a home game with a chance to close out the series, the Grizzlies outscored the Clippers 17-4 to end the game. At least talk about Zach Randolph's effort in a beastly double-double. Or talk about Marc Gasol or Mike Conley. Nope, they chose to focus on the losing team and rated them higher than the team that won.
The worst.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/notebook/_/page/lobcityledger-120511/los-angeles-clippers-vs-memphis-grizzlies
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
May 12, 2012 6:56am
No, Steve Nash would have won it. That team actually competed up until the last game for a playoff spot in the West with a team that maybe wins 12 games without him.Skyhook79;1168360 wrote:If it were a true MVP award Kevin Love would have won it.

Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
May 12, 2012 8:06am
LOL, they are not giving the MVP to a player who plays 21/2 qtrs a game and averaged 12 ppg. The Timberwolves actually went 1-10 without Love where saying Phoenix wins 12 games without Nash is nothing but a bad guess.lhslep134;1168475 wrote:No, Steve Nash would have won it. That team actually competed up until the last game for a playoff spot in the West with a team that maybe wins 12 games without him.

Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
May 12, 2012 9:23am
Everything you say is a bad guess

karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
May 12, 2012 11:22am
Skyhook79;1168483 wrote:LOL, they are not giving the MVP to a player who plays 21/2 qtrs a game and averaged 12 ppg. The Timberwolves actually went 1-10 without Love where saying Phoenix wins 12 games without Nash is nothing but a bad guess.
Minnesota's season turned for the worse when Ricky Rubio got hurt. Rubio for MVP!

Mulva
Posts: 13,650
May 12, 2012 11:48am
It would be confusing if it wasn't on ESPN LA. It's the Lob City Ledger. It's about the Clippers.Fly4Fun;1168465 wrote:ESPN really is the worst. I love this "reaction" piece to the Clippers/Grizzlies game.
Blake got a A-, Paul got a B, Bledsoe a A-, and the rest of the team a B+
Then they have one little snipet about how the Grizzlies got a B-
ESPN is all about the large market teams and that's it. I don't care that the Clippers had a few "injured" but playing players. They lost a home game with a chance to close out the series, the Grizzlies outscored the Clippers 17-4 to end the game. At least talk about Zach Randolph's effort in a beastly double-double. Or talk about Marc Gasol or Mike Conley. Nope, they chose to focus on the losing team and rated them higher than the team that won.
The worst.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/notebook/_/page/lobcityledger-120511/los-angeles-clippers-vs-memphis-grizzlies

Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
May 12, 2012 12:12pm
I don't know about most annoying ever, but they're def an annoying team to watch because of all the whining/flopping they do. Its pretty impressive how they went from most people's favorite/team they wanted to watch the most, to a annoying team in one team. I can't think of another team in recent memory where that has happened.2kool4skool;1168434 wrote:Anyone riding with the Clippers can go fuck themselves. Most annoying team in the history of the NBA.

Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
May 12, 2012 12:16pm
I didn't pull it from the ESPN LA site. At the time it was the only ESPN piece about the game (from their main page, only thing about it).Mulva;1168505 wrote:It would be confusing if it wasn't on ESPN LA. It's the Lob City Ledger. It's about the Clippers.
I know it was the Lob City Ledger, bt you think they would also want to put up a piece that would be less biased. Even for an ESPN LA piece grading your team that lost the game as the higher grade is still dumb.

jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
May 12, 2012 12:42pm
Brown is a solid coach. Had absolutely nothing to work with in Cleveland aside from Lebron

like_that
Posts: 26,625
May 12, 2012 1:31pm
lol, if anyone was wondering why Turdo was beating LJ in their "worst" matchup, this post is a prime example why.jordo212000;1168520 wrote:Brown is a solid coach. Had absolutely nothing to work with in Cleveland aside from Lebron

Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
May 12, 2012 1:34pm
SMH, turdo strikes again with passive agressive idiocy.
You're right turdo, LBJ was able to beat regning NBA champs (pistons), lead his team to the finals, and best record in the NBA two years in a row with zero talent around him. Makes sense. Nice logic fail.
You're right turdo, LBJ was able to beat regning NBA champs (pistons), lead his team to the finals, and best record in the NBA two years in a row with zero talent around him. Makes sense. Nice logic fail.

KR1245
Posts: 4,317
May 12, 2012 2:09pm
haha, Jordo just cant seem to let it go

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
May 12, 2012 4:43pm
Jesus, jordouche is the worst

Curly J
Posts: 7,282
May 12, 2012 5:01pm
Three guesses who I voted for in the "The Worst" Competition.jordo212000;1168520 wrote:Brown is a solid coach. Had absolutely nothing to work with in Cleveland aside from Lebron

hoops23
Posts: 15,696
May 12, 2012 5:53pm
Really wish I would have double checked the radio button I clicked when voting. Turdo is an idiot passive agressive troll.

jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
May 12, 2012 6:26pm
Who was Lebron's best teammate in Cleveland? Boobie Gibson, Varejao, Larry Hughes?

hoops23
Posts: 15,696
May 12, 2012 6:49pm
It wasn't about his best teammate, it was about the team as a whole and the depth they had. Mo Williams was a very good player and has contributed well to the LAC as well. Shaq was a good addition, Varejao is solid, etc...
You don't win 60+ games in two seasons with 1 great player and nothing else. Funny that the Heat haven't touched those marks.
You don't win 60+ games in two seasons with 1 great player and nothing else. Funny that the Heat haven't touched those marks.

jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
May 12, 2012 6:55pm
Wasn't ever a Mike Brown fan, but the dude is solid. Much better than Spoelstra IMO. The Cavs tried to bring in pieces but the best they could do was a washed up Shaq. Nobody wanted to come there. I believe in my heart of hearts that Lebron would be in Cleveland if Bosh would have signed there. He didn't want to though.
Fact is Lebron had a bad supporting cast. He was never going to win a championship being surrounded by a bunch of Titos.
Fact is Lebron had a bad supporting cast. He was never going to win a championship being surrounded by a bunch of Titos.

hoops23
Posts: 15,696
May 12, 2012 6:59pm
Bosh was never asked to play here.