Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
May 11, 2012 8:20am
Bynum and Gasol are a combined 14-40 the last 2 games and Kobe is 28-56 who do you think should get more shots?:rolleyes:Midstate01;1167575 wrote:Kobe has two 7 footers... He doesn't use them. They should absolutely dominate the nuggets inside. But Kobe would just rather shoot jumpers.
Thats on Bynum and Gasol.Midstate01;1167578 wrote:Faried and movgov should never be able to dominate Bynum and Gasol. But they are.
In bed at halftime, some of us have to get up and work.robj55;1167587 wrote:Where's Skyhook?
ok.Midstate01;1167591 wrote:Oh he only posts during games the lakers are winning. But don't worry, tomorrow he will be posting pictures of Kobe and his rings
Of course Chuck thinks that, he hates Kobe and the Lakers and had picked Denver to win the series from the beginning.Hb31187;1167604 wrote:Just saw that Kobe foul again. And I agree with chuck, that should of been a flagrant 2 and an ejection. He made absolutely no play on the ball and just forearm shivered him in the head
The reason the series is 3-3 now is because the Nuggets bench is out scoring the Lakers bench 234-81 and Gasol has once again disappeared in a Playoff Series.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
May 11, 2012 8:24am
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
May 11, 2012 8:47am
Lol. Too easy!
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
May 11, 2012 9:05am
lol so predictable skyhook.
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
May 11, 2012 9:11am
I think Kobe "went" for the ball. He just didn't care that his head was in the way.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
May 11, 2012 10:00am
lmao @ he went for the ball, skyhook...common now
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 11, 2012 11:36am
I think the Pacers take the Heat in 6. Book it!
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MontyBrunswick
May 11, 2012 12:02pm
Kobe whining about his teammates instead of stepping up.
What a douche.
What a douche.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
May 11, 2012 12:13pm
Flagrant has NOTHING to do with going for the ball.Skyhook79;1167652 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIun_XoRZxM
Not a Flagrant. He went for the Ball.
You can make a play on the ball and still commit a flagrant foul
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
May 11, 2012 12:49pm
This sums it up pretty clearly.wildcats20;1167965 wrote:Flagrant has NOTHING to do with going for the ball.
You can make a play on the ball and still commit a flagrant foul
The League Office will consider the following factors (as well as any other relevant facts and circumstances) in determining whether to classify a foul as Flagrant "1" or Flagrant "2", to reclassify a flagrant foul, or to impose a fine and/or suspension on the player involved:
1. The severity of the contact;
2. Whether or not the player was making a legitimate basketball play (e.g., whether a player is making a legitimate effort to block a shot; note, however, that a foul committed during a block attempt can still be considered flagrant if other criteria are present such as recklessness and hard contact to the head);
3. Whether, on a foul committed with a player's arm or hand, the fouling player wound up and/or followed through after making contact;
4. The potential for injury resulting from contact (e.g., a blow to the head and a foul committed while a player is in a vulnerable position);
5. The severity of any injury suffered by the offended player; and
6. The outcome of the contact (e.g., whether it led to an altercation).
NOTE: Each team will continue to be held responsible for the actions of its players on the court. Accordingly, if any individual player or team (collectively) commits, in the judgment of the League Office, an excessive number of flagrant fouls during the Playoffs, the player and/or that team's Head Coach will be subject to appropriate fines and/or suspensions.
For a flagrant, it just has to be unnecessary contact. I would definitely say there was. When deciding between and Flagrant 1 and Flagrant 2, whether or not he makes a basketball play is a factor.
Let's go through the factors.
1) Severity: I didn't watch the game, but I believe he show the FT's and continued to play. Didn't seem that serious. If he had to come out immediately it might be a 2.
2)Whether or not legitimate basketball play: this favors 1 as he was going for the ball, it just happens that Faried's head was in the way.
3)Whether or not committed with a players arm or hand, whether there was a follow through or wind up. The foul was committed with his "arm/elbow area" and there was a little wind up as he cocks back his arm before going for the block.
4) Potential for injury: Here it wa sa blow to a head AND the player was in a vulnerable position (in the air), this doesn't bode well.
5) Severity of injury: In the end doens't seem too severe unless news of a concussion comes out.
6) Outcome of contact: No fight resulted on people walking to each other, Kobe even helped Faried up.
I would say a flagrant 1 is probably the right call.
2kool4skool
Posts: 1,804
May 11, 2012 5:01pm
Not a chance.sleeper;1167887 wrote:I think the Pacers take the Heat in 6. Book it!
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
May 11, 2012 5:25pm
Lol he didnt even come close to the ball and gave him a forearm shiver across his head. If it were someone liek Faried fouling a superstar like Kobe in the same fashion...he would of been ejected.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
May 11, 2012 5:54pm
Oh really?Hb31187;1168241 wrote:Lol he didnt even come close to the ball and gave him a forearm shiver across his head. If it were someone like Wade fouling a superstar like Kobe in the same fashion...he would of been ejected.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
May 11, 2012 5:56pm
Yeah, I didn't watch the 2nd half. Only saw the video of it. I agree. If someone does that to a superstar, they are immediately gone and probably suspended for the next game. It was a terrible decision by Kobe.Hb31187;1168241 wrote:Lol he didnt even come close to the ball and gave him a forearm shiver across his head. If it were someone liek Faried fouling a superstar like Kobe in the same fashion...he would of been ejected.
And lol at someone saying Kobe wasn't sick. You don't get IV's before and at half time when you are healthy. And Kobe whining and not stepping up? Um, where did Kobe NOT step up last night. He was about the only one in purple who even tried.
Kobe was 13/23. The other Laker starters were a combined 13/39. So again, who didn't step up?
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
May 11, 2012 6:03pm
Yeah I fully agree, but the NBA wont pull that trigger and have a superstar potentially sit out a game 7. it is what it is, I'm just glad that Faried isnt injured for game 7.wildcats20;1168254 wrote:Yeah, I didn't watch the 2nd half. Only saw the video of it. I agree. If someone does that to a superstar, they are immediately gone and probably suspended for the next game. It was a terrible decision by Kobe.
And lol at someone saying Kobe wasn't sick. You don't get IV's before and at half time when you are healthy. And Kobe whining and not stepping up? Um, where did Kobe NOT step up last night. He was about the only one in purple who even tried.
Kobe was 13/23. The other Laker starters were a combined 13/39. So again, who didn't step up?
I agree he was sick, I just was sick of hearing the announcers make a note of it every 10 seconds. But yeah you dont get iv's willingly unless you really are in need and sick as a dog.
Apparently everyone but Skyhook agrees that it was a horrible decision by Kobe and a clear flagrant. Retard
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
May 11, 2012 6:04pm
Yeah, I'm glad to see Faried is ok. Dude is a freak and a definite asset for the Nuggs.Hb31187;1168261 wrote:Yeah I fully agree, but the NBA wont pull that trigger and have a superstar potentially sit out a game 7. it is what it is, I'm just glad that Faried isnt injured for game 7.
I agree he was sick, I just was sick of hearing the announcers make a note of it every 10 seconds. But yeah you dont get iv's willingly unless you really are in need and sick as a dog.
Apparently everyone but Skyhook agrees that it was a horrible decision by Kobe and a clear flagrant. Retard
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
May 11, 2012 6:05pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JCZtj7D18o&feature=relatedwildcats20;1168254 wrote:Yeah, I didn't watch the 2nd half. Only saw the video of it. I agree. If someone does that to a superstar, they are immediately gone and probably suspended for the next game. It was a terrible decision by Kobe.
And lol at someone saying Kobe wasn't sick. You don't get IV's before and at half time when you are healthy. And Kobe whining and not stepping up? Um, where did Kobe NOT step up last night. He was about the only one in purple who even tried.
Kobe was 13/23. The other Laker starters were a combined 13/39. So again, who didn't step up?
So how many games did Wade get again? What is the difference in the 2 fouls? Wade made no play for the ball and gave another player a broken nose and a concussion after hitting a player in the head.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
May 11, 2012 6:07pm
I wasnt quite sure if he was gonna pan out in the NBA due to being undersized and nto really having an offensive game(which he still doesnt really). But even as cliche as it sounds, he has a motor that just doesnt stop running. Him and Mcgee are gonna have to continue to be active on the glass and we're gonna have to hit some open shots to have a chance to wint his game 7. It should be a damn good gamewildcats20;1168263 wrote:Yeah, I'm glad to see Faried is ok. Dude is a freak and a definite asset for the Nuggs.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
May 11, 2012 6:08pm
Are you really that fucking dense? I Said if it was someone like Faried makign a foul on a superstar that itd of been an ejection. That was superstar on superstar, and it was during an all star game, I'm pretty sure you cant get suspended for regular season games for conduct during an allstar game.Skyhook79;1168265 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JCZtj7D18o&feature=related
So how many games did Wade get again? What is the difference in the 2 fouls? Wade made no play for the ball and gave another player a broken nose and a concussion after hitting a player in the head.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 11, 2012 6:20pm
Wade made a play on the ball(hard) and followed through and hit Kobe in the nose, quit whining about it there was nothing dirty there. All you are trying to do is detract attention from Kobe's dirty play.Skyhook79;1168265 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JCZtj7D18o&feature=related
So how many games did Wade get again? What is the difference in the 2 fouls? Wade made no play for the ball and gave another player a broken nose and a concussion after hitting a player in the head.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
May 11, 2012 6:26pm
The ball was below kobe's nose and head when wade hit him.robj55;1168272 wrote:Wade made a play on the ball(hard) and followed through and hit Kobe in the nose, quit whining about it there was nothing dirty there. All you are trying to do is detract attention from Kobe's dirty play.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
May 11, 2012 6:28pm
Skyhook79;1168273 wrote:The ball was below kobe's nose and head when wade hit him.
Haha.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
May 11, 2012 6:31pm
lolkaren lotz;1168274 wrote:Haha.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 11, 2012 6:35pm
He was gathering to go up and Wade tried to anticipate it, nice try though.Skyhook79;1168273 wrote:The ball was below kobe's nose and head when wade hit him.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
May 11, 2012 6:36pm
robj55;1168277 wrote:He was gathering to go up and Wade tried to anticipate it, nice try though.
Don't try to reason with him, just laugh.