Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Apr 29, 2012 11:28pm
No, it's not.sleeper;1157309 wrote:Great. Still hilarious and hypocritical, like the entire faith system.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 29, 2012 11:33pm
Til death do us part. Oh yeah, except for these special rules that are outline in a 3000 year old fiction novel.Skyhook79;1157319 wrote:No, it's not.
Get real.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Apr 29, 2012 11:39pm
Non believers divorce too, are they hypocrites too?sleeper;1157322 wrote:Til death do us part. Oh yeah, except for these special rules that are outline in a 3000 year old fiction novel.
Get real.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Apr 29, 2012 11:42pm
Only if they try to tell people they're ruining the sanctity of marriage for some reason or another and then don't uphold the promises of their own (an example of that would be getting divorced). So the answer to your question is "maybe".Skyhook79;1157326 wrote:Non believers divorce too, are they hypocrites too?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 30, 2012 12:48am
Yes, but their marriage has nothing to do with god, unlike yours.Skyhook79;1157326 wrote:Non believers divorce too, are they hypocrites too?
2kool4skool
Posts: 1,804
Apr 30, 2012 1:03am
You're older than 36?Skyhook79;1156993 wrote:I didn't become a baptized believer until age 36, so your point is not valid.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 30, 2012 1:34am
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Apr 30, 2012 6:38am
I acknowledged that it's not rational. It doesn't need to be.sleeper;1157210 wrote:I can use whatever I want as long as faith is seen as rational. Why engage in rational debate when the other side refuses to acknowledge how fraudulent and illogical their beliefs are?
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Apr 30, 2012 8:22am
Did they get married in a Church? By a Pastor/Minister/Priest?sleeper;1157363 wrote:Yes, but their marriage has nothing to do with god, unlike yours.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 30, 2012 10:27am
I've never been to a traditional wedding.Skyhook79;1157419 wrote:Did they get married in a Church? By a Pastor/Minister/Priest?
I don't see how calling others hypocrites makes the Christians any less hypocritical.
cruiser_96
Posts: 7,536
Apr 30, 2012 10:33am
I think that no God existing would be of great benefit. No value (good, evil, etc.). Just a sequence of events. Also, no standards. No absolutes... just events.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Apr 30, 2012 2:34pm
It doesn't. Just because there are hypocritical Christians doesn't mean Christianity is a fraud. Just as there are hypocritical atheist's doesn't make atheism a fraud. Whether Christianity is right or atheist's are right is where faith comes in. I choose Christianity, you choose atheism, in the end we will see who chose the right path or if there is even a right path, which I believe there is.sleeper;1157539 wrote:I've never been to a traditional wedding.
I don't see how calling others hypocrites makes the Christians any less hypocritical.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 30, 2012 2:45pm
Good point. Christianity on its core fundamentals is a fraud, which has nothing to do with the cult like ceremonies.Skyhook79;1157763 wrote:It doesn't. Just because there are hypocritical Christians doesn't mean Christianity is a fraud. Just as there are hypocritical atheist's doesn't make atheism a fraud. Whether Christianity is right or atheist's are right is where faith comes in. I choose Christianity, you choose atheism, in the end we will see who chose the right path or if there is even a right path, which I believe there is.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Apr 30, 2012 3:16pm
Where do you stand on Priests raping little boys?Skyhook79;1157763 wrote:It doesn't. Just because there are hypocritical Christians doesn't mean Christianity is a fraud. Just as there are hypocritical atheist's doesn't make atheism a fraud. Whether Christianity is right or atheist's are right is where faith comes in. I choose Christianity, you choose atheism, in the end we will see who chose the right path or if there is even a right path, which I believe there is.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Apr 30, 2012 3:22pm
They were all "pitiful malcontents" anyway. Apparently the Catholic League isn't for the civil rights of children.DeyDurkie5;1157819 wrote:Where do you stand on Priests raping little boys?
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Apr 30, 2012 3:24pm
Probably the same stance I have on anyone who rapes little boys.DeyDurkie5;1157819 wrote:Where do you stand on Priests raping little boys?
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Apr 30, 2012 3:38pm
Just transfer them without legal punishment so they can do it again? good stance!Skyhook79;1157827 wrote:Probably the same stance I have on anyone who rapes little boys.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Apr 30, 2012 3:50pm
How do you feel about how they handled raping little boys? ANY other organization, and they most likely go bankrupt. But because it's the "church" it's pushed to the side and hidden for the most part. Hell, sandusky just showered with a kid and he got lambasted for it.Skyhook79;1157827 wrote:Probably the same stance I have on anyone who rapes little boys.
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Apr 30, 2012 4:02pm
10 years after the fact. Not a great example.DeyDurkie5;1157847 wrote:How do you feel about how they handled raping little boys? ANY other organization, and they most likely go bankrupt. But because it's the "church" it's pushed to the side and hidden for the most part. Hell, sandusky just showered with a kid and he got lambasted for it.
OSH
Posts: 4,145
Apr 30, 2012 4:03pm
Penn State didn't get "lambasted" for anything. They never fell apart even though they were definitely guilty of not taking action with Sandusky. Syracuse have yet to fall apart on Bernie Fine's supposed rapes.DeyDurkie5;1157847 wrote:How do you feel about how they handled raping little boys? ANY other organization, and they most likely go bankrupt. But because it's the "church" it's pushed to the side and hidden for the most part. Hell, sandusky just showered with a kid and he got lambasted for it.
The Who got to play the Super Bowl halftime show after Pete Townshend got busted with child porn. Nothing extreme happened to R Kelly. Roman Polanski is still going strong.
I am in no way condoning what the Catholic church has done with the priest scandals...but the "world" is also guilty of such crimes. The "world" gets away with just as much, if not more. Again, this is not condoning anything. I wish those would be punished, and punished severely.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Apr 30, 2012 4:03pm
That is not my stance, where did I say anything remotely like that?Raw Dawgin' it;1157836 wrote:Just transfer them without legal punishment so they can do it again? good stance!
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Apr 30, 2012 4:04pm
Really? You really believe that?DeyDurkie5;1157847 wrote:How do you feel about how they handled raping little boys? ANY other organization, and they most likely go bankrupt. But because it's the "church" it's pushed to the side and hidden for the most part. Hell, sandusky just showered with a kid and he got lambasted for it.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Apr 30, 2012 4:07pm
Should I judge all Gay rights advocates and anti-bullying advocates by what Dan Savage says and does?I Wear Pants;1157825 wrote:They were all "pitiful malcontents" anyway. Apparently the Catholic League isn't for the civil rights of children.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Apr 30, 2012 4:17pm
Not really. But when a company that preaches "love thy neighbor" "be a good person" then turns around and has it's leaders rape boys, It's a bit hypocritical in my eye.Skyhook79;1157866 wrote:Really? You really believe that?
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Apr 30, 2012 6:16pm
They are lawbreakers, sinners and should be justly punished for their actions.DeyDurkie5;1157877 wrote:Not really. But when a company that preaches "love thy neighbor" "be a good person" then turns around and has it's leaders rape boys, It's a bit hypocritical in my eye.