sleeper
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Apr 20, 2012 2:41pm
They couldn't help it, they were talked into it by a snake.Skyhook79;1148959 wrote:Adam and Eve dis- obeyed a direct command from the creator is the reason. I thought you said you read the Bible?
I mean seriously, people buy this shit? It doesn't even try to allow for a semblance of credibility.
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I Wear Pants
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Apr 20, 2012 2:42pm
OSH
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Apr 20, 2012 2:42pm
I am not saying that...AiG's premise is that. They are going on "Biblical authority." That the Bible is accurate "here, here, and here" so then the rest are accurate -- and they are doing this on multiple levels. Not just going off of a "flood" and saying EVERYTHING is accurate. They are going on multiple things throughout the whole Bible to prove it's "authority" (or accuracy).I Wear Pants;1148948 wrote:So you're saying that if part of a book is true than the rest of a book is true. You're saying that if the purely historical parts of the Bible are true it gives weight to the claims of magic found in the Bible.
I strongly disagree.
But, (this is what I'm saying) why can't this stuff be true? Why not "prove" things throughout a book, which was written for a specific purpose, in order to "prove" its legitimacy? Why can't that happen? Just because you don't think the "magic" could happen doesn't mean it couldn't (or didn't). Just because you (or anyone else) cannot understand how someone could be the "Son of God" doesn't mean He isn't -- sound similar to the Judaism and Christianity rift?
Raw Dawgin' it
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Apr 20, 2012 2:43pm
Please explain that if god is infallible and we were created in his image, why are we not infallible?Skyhook79;1148959 wrote:Adam and Eve dis- obeyed a direct command from the creator is the reason. I thought you said you read the Bible?
I totally agree with IWP
"It's very telling to me that in most religions the god hates all the same things and people as the followers of that religion and has chosen them as the special people."
Skyhook79
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Apr 20, 2012 2:44pm
According to you apes can talk and drive cars...sleeper;1148961 wrote:They couldn't help it, they were talked into it by a snake.
I mean seriously, people buy this shit? It doesn't even try to allow for a semblance of credibility.
Skyhook79
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Apr 20, 2012 2:45pm
Because he gave us free will. If he didn't what would be the point of life?Raw Dawgin' it;1148965 wrote:Please explain that if god is infallible and we were created in his image, why are we not infallible?
I totally agree with IWP
"It's very telling to me that in most religions the god hates all the same things and people as the followers of that religion and has chosen them as the special people."
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I Wear Pants
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Apr 20, 2012 2:46pm
Sleeper never claimed that. I'd like you to show where he or anyone here said that apes can talk and drive cars.Skyhook79;1148967 wrote:According to you apes can talk and drive cars...
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I Wear Pants
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Apr 20, 2012 2:46pm
Either way he created evil then.Skyhook79;1148968 wrote:Because he gave us free will. If he didn't what would be the point of life?
Skyhook79
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Apr 20, 2012 2:47pm
Not at all, God said everyone is welcome to accept him. It's your choice and lack of relationship with Jesus Christ that keeps you from salvation not God.Raw Dawgin' it;1148965 wrote:Please explain that if god is infallible and we were created in his image, why are we not infallible?
I totally agree with IWP
"It's very telling to me that in most religions the god hates all the same things and people as the followers of that religion and has chosen them as the special people."
Raw Dawgin' it
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Apr 20, 2012 2:48pm
lol thou shall not worship false idols, but i will give you free will to do what you want. I will give you what makes you an individual but make it completely useless if you don't follow the rules I give you. gtfo.Skyhook79;1148968 wrote:Because he gave us free will. If he didn't what would be the point of life?
Heretic
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Apr 20, 2012 2:49pm
Free will = do what I command or you get leprosy, plagues, snakebites and swallowed by the earth.Raw Dawgin' it;1148974 wrote:lol thou shall not worship false idols, but i will give you free will to do what you want. I will give you what makes you an individual but make it completely useless if you don't follow the rules I give you. gtfo.
Raw Dawgin' it
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Apr 20, 2012 2:50pm
When Jesus comes back and shakes my hand i'll believe it.Skyhook79;1148972 wrote:Not at all, God said everyone is welcome to accept him. It's your choice and lack of relationship with Jesus Christ that keeps you from salvation not God.
Skyhook79
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Apr 20, 2012 2:51pm
Raw Dawgin' it;1148974 wrote:lol thou shall not worship false idols, but i will give you free will to do what you want. I will give you what makes you an individual but make it completely useless if you don't follow the rules I give you. gtfo.
"Everything is permissible for me"--but not everything is beneficial. "Everything is permissible for me"--but I will not be mastered by anything. 1 Corithians 6:12
Skyhook79
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Apr 20, 2012 2:51pm
Peter and Thomas said something similar.Raw Dawgin' it;1148977 wrote:When Jesus comes back and shakes my hand i'll believe it.
Skyhook79
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Apr 20, 2012 2:52pm
Link?Heretic;1148976 wrote:Free will = do what I command or you get leprosy, plagues, snakebites and swallowed by the earth.
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I Wear Pants
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Apr 20, 2012 2:53pm
Dude, you're using the Bible to try to prove that the Bible is true.
Raw Dawgin' it
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Apr 20, 2012 2:53pm
plagues never happened, he's not a jew.Heretic;1148976 wrote:Free will = do what I command or you get leprosy, plagues, snakebites and swallowed by the earth.
Raw Dawgin' it
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Apr 20, 2012 2:54pm
LOL this!I Wear Pants;1148983 wrote:Dude, you're using the Bible to try to prove that the Bible is true.
sleeper
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Apr 20, 2012 2:54pm
Awesome!I Wear Pants;1148963 wrote:
sleeper
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Apr 20, 2012 2:55pm
I have never said this. Nice try though.Skyhook79;1148967 wrote:According to you apes can talk and drive cars...
Heretic
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Apr 20, 2012 2:58pm
Start at Exodus and move forward.Skyhook79;1148982 wrote:Link?
sleeper
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Apr 20, 2012 3:07pm
Whoa wait. I thought God has a plan for all of us? Which is it?Skyhook79;1148968 wrote:Because he gave us free will. If he didn't what would be the point of life?
Circular logic is another flaw of religious belief.
DeyDurkie5
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Apr 20, 2012 3:37pm
LOL skyhook getting pwned. Keep it coming boys. beers for all the pwnage.
Raw Dawgin' it
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Apr 20, 2012 3:42pm
there's only a plan if you believe, other wise you make your own decisions.sleeper;1149002 wrote:Whoa wait. I thought God has a plan for all of us? Which is it?
Circular logic is another flaw of religious belief.
Devils Advocate
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Apr 20, 2012 4:10pm
Heretic;1148995 wrote:Start at Exodus and move forward.
Cryhook, I do not even think God can win against a reply like this,