DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Apr 17, 2012 9:06pm
you honestly believe the rapture is coming?Skyhook79;1146357 wrote:Maybe we will find out when the Rapture comes.
OSH
Posts: 4,145
Apr 17, 2012 10:20pm
You should know from all the soccer talk I am a part of...makes me gay because soccer is gay.DeyDurkie5;1146358 wrote:let's just hope one of you aren't gay, cause the christian thing to do would be ignore them and think "omg they are sinning every day of their life"
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Apr 17, 2012 10:23pm
I'm curious, which were those?jmog;1146228 wrote:I have read it. Twice actually. While it was an interesting read it made some very stretching conclusions from some interesting assumptions.
And also, even if that were true...isn't that what religion does?
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Apr 18, 2012 12:09am
I don't deny that religion does this as well, but to say that his book pretty much disproves all religion is about as far fetching as saying I can prove 100% that God created the Earth 6000 years ago.I Wear Pants;1146525 wrote:I'm curious, which were those?
And also, even if that were true...isn't that what religion does?
Neither would be even close to accurate.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Apr 18, 2012 12:26am
Sure but I disagree that it's as far fetching. The earth is not 6000 years old and that is simply not arguable, it's fact.jmog;1146643 wrote:I don't deny that religion does this as well, but to say that his book pretty much disproves all religion is about as far fetching as saying I can prove 100% that God created the Earth 6000 years ago.
Neither would be even close to accurate.
I'd argue that books like his and those from Hitchens and Shermer and Degrasse Tyson and Sagan, etc make a very strong case against the existence of god(s). I don't think there's any chance that should there be a god that it is the god of any of the religions we see practiced today or in the past.
I would also love to hear which points you thought were stretching conclusions Dawkins made from assumptions, always up for different interpretations of things I've read.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Apr 18, 2012 12:55am
Earth is definitely not 6,000 years old.
Skyhook79
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Apr 18, 2012 6:51am
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Apr 18, 2012 8:41am
Please prove this 100%. I would love to read it. I am not saying the evidence isn't there to support your claim but to say it is 100% fact is erroneous.I Wear Pants;1146647 wrote:Sure but I disagree that it's as far fetching. The earth is not 6000 years old and that is simply not arguable, it's fact.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Apr 18, 2012 9:17am
Dude are you shitting me?jmog;1146763 wrote:Please prove this 100%. I would love to read it. I am not saying the evidence isn't there to support your claim but to say it is 100% fact is erroneous.
There is an overwhelming amount of evidence. The earth is not 6000 years old.
Simply because we can't "100% for sure prove" something doesn't mean it isn't so. We cannot 100% prove anything that we weren't alive for but evidence suffices. The earth is not 6000 years old get over it.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Apr 18, 2012 9:18am
Those people are idiots.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Apr 18, 2012 9:18am
Typical response.I Wear Pants;1146812 wrote:Those people are idiots.
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Apr 18, 2012 9:25am
So are people who think someone can rise from the dead.I Wear Pants;1146812 wrote:Those people are idiots.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Apr 18, 2012 9:26am
Dude. They used the bible as a source to explain impossibly quick formation of all the earths rock. That's beyond ignorant. That flood didn't happen.Skyhook79;1146813 wrote:Typical response.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 18, 2012 10:10am
It disproves religion? It most certainly does. Does it disprove god? No, but it presents arguments that make god seem a lot less likely.jmog;1146643 wrote:I don't deny that religion does this as well, but to say that his book pretty much disproves all religion is about as far fetching as saying I can prove 100% that God created the Earth 6000 years ago.
Neither would be even close to accurate.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 18, 2012 10:12am
LOL +1 Would read again. I would LOVE to see jmog publish the Earth being only 6000 years old in a NASA journal. I wonder why he doesn't? Because it would be fraud and he would be out of a job, apparently he doesn't apply that to his personal life though.I Wear Pants;1146821 wrote:Dude. They used the bible as a source to explain impossibly quick formation of all the earths rock. That's beyond ignorant. That flood didn't happen.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 18, 2012 1:37pm
Nothing can be ever be 100% proven. You can get close to 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999% but not 100%. It's a logical and trup loop hole to justify an erroneous belief, it's also a tool used by frauds and derelicts to scam people.I Wear Pants;1146809 wrote:Dude are you shitting me?
There is an overwhelming amount of evidence. The earth is not 6000 years old.
Simply because we can't "100% for sure prove" something doesn't mean it isn't so. We cannot 100% prove anything that we weren't alive for but evidence suffices. The earth is not 6000 years old get over it.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Apr 18, 2012 1:43pm
*truesleeper;1147018 wrote:Nothing can be ever be 100% proven. You can get close to 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999% but not 100%. It's a logical and trup loop hole to justify an erroneous belief, it's also a tool used by frauds and derelicts to scam people.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Apr 18, 2012 6:22pm
Link?I Wear Pants;1146821 wrote:Dude. They used the bible as a source to explain impossibly quick formation of all the earths rock. That's beyond ignorant. That flood didn't happen.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Apr 18, 2012 9:54pm
Are we talking about Noah's flood here? Because the biblical Noah's flood literally could not have happened. Scientifically impossible.Skyhook79;1147290 wrote:Link?
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Apr 19, 2012 8:14am
Actually I'd you read more they explain other cases where rock layers have been formed rapidly like Mt St Helen's, various local floods, etc. They showed that rock layers CAN form quickly in extreme circumstances. They then say if me believes the flood was real then most certainly 6000 years is realistic.I Wear Pants;1146821 wrote:Dude. They used the bible as a source to explain impossibly quick formation of all the earths rock. That's beyond ignorant. That flood didn't happen.
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Apr 19, 2012 8:14am
Please show such scientific proof that the flood was impossible.I Wear Pants;1147540 wrote:Are we talking about Noah's flood here? Because the biblical Noah's flood literally could not have happened. Scientifically impossible.
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Apr 19, 2012 8:16am
You do realize the people at AiG are PhD scientists correct?I Wear Pants;1146812 wrote:Those people are idiots.
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Apr 19, 2012 8:18am
I Wear Pants;1146809 wrote:Dude are you ****ting me?
There is an overwhelming amount of evidence. The earth is not 6000 years old.
Simply because we can't "100% for sure prove" something doesn't mean it isn't so. We cannot 100% prove anything that we weren't alive for but evidence suffices. The earth is not 6000 years old get over it.
Here we go...
Can you give me a dating method that validates your claim?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 19, 2012 9:38am
PhD scientists who couldn't get a real job because they got them at a local community college.jmog;1147735 wrote:You do realize the people at AiG are PhD scientists correct?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 19, 2012 9:39am
Can you show me how an invisible man in the sky created the world in 7 days? And verify that he did that all while resting on the 7th day?jmog;1147731 wrote:Actually I'd you read more they explain other cases where rock layers have been formed rapidly like Mt St Helen's, various local floods, etc. They showed that rock layers CAN form quickly in extreme circumstances. They then say if me believes the flood was real then most certainly 6000 years is realistic.
LOL
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