sleeper;1142828 wrote:You're still a whiner who tries to be clever and ends up just looking like a derelict.

I definitely express my opinions in "real life" just as much as I do on these forums. You've never met me, you probably never will, but I sure as shit wouldn't want to meet someone who brings up pointless cliches and adds nothing of value to any discussion, ever, in their entire history.

What value have you brought to this discussion? Because I don't see it.

I want to see links, quotes, etc, to prove that you've brought anything of substance to this discussion instead of just rambling off pointless opinions.

It seems you want to push your belief/opinion on everybody and if they don't agree they are wrong. That's not a discussion.

You continually make asinine statements such as the ones regarding medication and religion, education and religion, etc..

As I previously said, I'm not a big believer in the least bit, but I don't critique those who are unless they try to push their beliefs on me. What you are doing is just as bad as any bible thumper...

Seriously, change your words around a bit and this would be a thread about you pushing religion down everyones throat instead of you bashing it. It's the same thing to me. I don't care if you believe or not, but again, don't try and force your opinion onto me.

Midstate01;1142837 wrote:I had faith the reds would score in the 9th, it worked!! And I enjoyed it!!!

#believerlogic

sleeper;1142841 wrote:#winning

fixed

hoops23;1142840 wrote:What value have you brought to this discussion? Because I don't see it.

I want to see links, quotes, etc, to prove that you've brought anything of substance to this discussion instead of just rambling off pointless opinions.

It seems you want to push your belief/opinion on everybody and if they don't agree they are wrong. That's not a discussion.

You continually make asinine statements such as the ones regarding medication and religion, education and religion, etc..

As I previously said, I'm not a big believer in the least bit, but I don't critique those who are unless they try to push their beliefs on me. What you are doing is just as bad as any bible thumper...

Seriously, change your words around a bit and this would be a thread about you pushing religion down everyones throat instead of you bashing it. It's the same thing to me. I don't care if you believe or not, but again, don't try and force your opinion onto me.

Oh piss off.

Links? I've provided links before, no one reads them. I've posted evidence, no one reads them.

Why bother wasting my time going through the process of rational debate when the other side won't play by the same rules? You can't fix stupid, so you ridicule them, punish them, make them frustrated, make them realize the weakness and deficiencies in their belief system. It's actually 10000x more effective to get people to stop being brainwashed from years and years of childhood indoctrination. On the surface, they will resist, but I'm not concerned about the surface, I'm concerned about the underlying mental and emotional stability that I KNOW without a doubt straight up degrades under any level of scrutiny. It's about time non-believers start calling believers out for their nonsense and explaining to them how religion is for the poor, stupid, and the weak.

You want rational debate, good luck. Believers use too many logical loopholes to even begin the discussion.

sleeper;1142456 wrote:Mother Teresa never worked a day in her life. It must be nice to pillage from the haves to give the have nots hope that their life sucks because its part of god's plan to give them 100 virgins in heaven. That just makes all the poor people into religious zealots because if they die for god they will be rewarded in heaven. Greatest people to ever lived is a false perception of the most intellectual corrupt institutions ever, the Catholic Church.

I'm bothered by religion because it is absolutely devoid of any intellectual integrity. It's an adult fairy tale that people try to not only pass off as truth, but try to enact laws that are purely religious based and absolutely vile.

Never worked a day in her life? Smh, I hope you're not actually this ignorant. Purely out of curiosity, what do you contribute to society? Have a job?

Sleeper owns a McDonald's and will be a multi billionaire in about 2 more years.

goosebumps;1142873 wrote:Never worked a day in her life? Smh, I hope you're not actually this ignorant. Purely out of curiosity, what do you contribute to society? Have a job?

Mother Teresa kept thousands of people in constant states of agonizing pain. There is a good Bullshit! episode on Ghandi and Mother Teresa and just how disgusting some of their views in the world were. Christopher Hitchens paints her as a quite evil person.

In fact, Mother Teresa seemed quite certain there was no Heaven or God by the time she died.

Shortly after beginning work in Calcutta's slums, the spirit left Mother Teresa.

"Where is my faith?" she wrote. "Even deep down… there is nothing but emptiness and darkness... If there be God — please forgive me."


Eight years later, she was still looking to reclaim her lost faith.


"Such deep longing for God… Repulsed, empty, no faith, no love, no zeal," she said.


As her fame increased, her faith refused to return. Her smile, she said, was a mask.


"What do I labor for?" she asked in one letter. "If there be no God, there can be no soul. If there be no soul then, Jesus, You also are not true."

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-18563_162-3199062.html

sleeper;1140933 wrote:We don't "care" necessarily, we just want it out of our lives and churches to pay taxes for the businesses they are. Plus its always fun to make fun of stupid people, and you can't get much dumber than your average bible thumper.

Please feel free to attempt at making fun of "stupid people" like myself. I find it hilarious.

goosebumps;1142873 wrote:Never worked a day in her life? Smh, I hope you're not actually this ignorant. Purely out of curiosity, what do you contribute to society? Have a job?

Let's just walk around and delude people. Wow, what a great person. She added no value other than perpetuating myths to help the poor and stupid. Ironically, it made their lives worse. I guess some people who rather be wrapped in a blanket of lies than be told the truth; drugs work the same way, are you advocating the world just stop trying to be great and get high?

And of course I work.

jmog;1142889 wrote:Please feel free to attempt at making fun of "stupid people" like myself. I find it hilarious.

Ah, gotta love our resident head-in-the-sand evangelical "scientist".

sleeper;1142912 wrote:And of course I work.

Having the same job that most high schoolers have as an adult is not really working. I can smell the failure through the interwebs. Now start crying like you always do.

Midstate01;1142751 wrote:Deuteronomy 14:22-29 states that one-tenth of all that comes into your possession, belongs to God.

2 Corinthians 9:7:
[INDENT]Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.
[/INDENT]

sleeper;1142911 wrote:Let's just walk around and delude people. Wow, what a great person. She added no value other than perpetuating myths to help the poor and stupid. Ironically, it made their lives worse. I guess some people who rather be wrapped in a blanket of lies than be told the truth; drugs work the same way, are you advocating the world just stop trying to be great and get high?

YES bc that's what I typed right? Everyone should be high 100% of the time. Lmao, you have no argument so you completely changed the subject and put words in my mouth. You really work at McDonalds?

Skyhook79;1142925 wrote:2 Corinthians 9:7:[INDENT]Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.
[/INDENT]

so the bible is just one big hypocritical book? got it.

Raw Dawgin' it;1142771 wrote:lol how about they stop passing around a collection basket and having fundraisers then?

Nobody forces you to put anything in. If you don't want to give you pass the basket/plate to the next person.

DeyDurkie5;1142928 wrote:so the bible is just one big hypocritical book? got it.

You have to first understand Old and New Testament and what the resurrection of Christ changed.

goosebumps;1142927 wrote:YES bc that's what I typed right? Everyone should be high 100% of the time. Lmao, you have no argument so you completely changed the subject and put words in my mouth. You really work at McDonalds?

That's what the idiot does. In this thread alone he has called my opinions ignorant, I in turn state that his are ignorant as well. The idiot complains about the fact that I called him ignorant. Classic.

goosebumps;1142927 wrote:YES bc that's what I typed right? Everyone should be high 100% of the time. Lmao, you have no argument so you completely changed the subject and put words in my mouth. You really work at McDonalds?

That isn't what you typed, that is what you want apparently; people to be told lies to mask the truth. Enjoy!

rmolin73;1142935 wrote:That's what the idiot does. In this thread alone he has called my opinions ignorant, I in turn state that his are ignorant as well. The idiot complains about the fact that I called him ignorant. Classic.

:rolleyes:

Skyhook79;1142931 wrote:You have to first understand Old and New Testament and what the resurrection of Christ changed.

oh is that right?

DeyDurkie5;1142988 wrote:oh is that right?

It changes to fit their argument whenever they need it. It'll change back if needed.

#logicalloopholes

sleeper;1142848 wrote:Oh piss off.

Links? I've provided links before, no one reads them. I've posted evidence, no one reads them.

Why bother wasting my time going through the process of rational debate when the other side won't play by the same rules? You can't fix stupid, so you ridicule them, punish them, make them frustrated, make them realize the weakness and deficiencies in their belief system. It's actually 10000x more effective to get people to stop being brainwashed from years and years of childhood indoctrination. On the surface, they will resist, but I'm not concerned about the surface, I'm concerned about the underlying mental and emotional stability that I KNOW without a doubt straight up degrades under any level of scrutiny. It's about time non-believers start calling believers out for their nonsense and explaining to them how religion is for the poor, stupid, and the weak.

You want rational debate, good luck. Believers use too many logical loopholes to even begin the discussion.

I've never seen you post a link. I'd love to see your evidence though. That'd be great to read actually. You might save me from wasting any more of my time.

sleeper;1142991 wrote:It changes to fit their argument whenever they need it. It'll change back if needed.

#logicalloopholes

Like most books out there, everything is up to interpretation right?

There are people out there who strictly believe in tithes, and there are those who feel that whatever (or nothing at all) is best. Like I said before, I've never been forced to give money to my church (and I'm willing to bet an overwhelming majority would say the same). I for one don't feel the need to give 10% or anything for that matter to be considered a good person/Christian. I've actually gotten into arguments with people regarding this. There is nothing wrong with asking members for money to pay for the bills every week.

sleeper;1142984 wrote:That isn't what you typed, that is what you want apparently; people to be told lies to mask the truth. Enjoy!

Please enlighten us to the truth. I honestly don't know what to believe. Which religion, if any is correct is beyond me. I don't pretend to know. Pretty sure no one does, including you. Its literally impossible to know.

That said I just try to be a good person. I don't need to belittle others for what they believe, because I don't know what the real answer to life is.