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Apr 29, 2012 11:28 PM
sleeper;1157309 wrote:Great. Still hilarious and hypocritical, like the entire faith system.
No, it's not.
Apr 29, 2012 11:28pm
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Apr 29, 2012 11:33 PM
Skyhook79;1157319 wrote:No, it's not.
Til death do us part. Oh yeah, except for these special rules that are outline in a 3000 year old fiction novel.

Get real.
Apr 29, 2012 11:33pm
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Apr 29, 2012 11:39 PM
sleeper;1157322 wrote:Til death do us part. Oh yeah, except for these special rules that are outline in a 3000 year old fiction novel.

Get real.
Non believers divorce too, are they hypocrites too?
Apr 29, 2012 11:39pm
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Apr 29, 2012 11:42 PM
Skyhook79;1157326 wrote:Non believers divorce too, are they hypocrites too?
Only if they try to tell people they're ruining the sanctity of marriage for some reason or another and then don't uphold the promises of their own (an example of that would be getting divorced). So the answer to your question is "maybe".
Apr 29, 2012 11:42pm
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Apr 30, 2012 12:48 AM
Skyhook79;1157326 wrote:Non believers divorce too, are they hypocrites too?
Yes, but their marriage has nothing to do with god, unlike yours.
Apr 30, 2012 12:48am
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Apr 30, 2012 1:03 AM
Skyhook79;1156993 wrote:I didn't become a baptized believer until age 36, so your point is not valid.
You're older than 36?

Apr 30, 2012 1:03am
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Apr 30, 2012 6:38 AM
sleeper;1157210 wrote:I can use whatever I want as long as faith is seen as rational. Why engage in rational debate when the other side refuses to acknowledge how fraudulent and illogical their beliefs are?
I acknowledged that it's not rational. It doesn't need to be.
Apr 30, 2012 6:38am
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Apr 30, 2012 8:22 AM
sleeper;1157363 wrote:Yes, but their marriage has nothing to do with god, unlike yours.
Did they get married in a Church? By a Pastor/Minister/Priest?
Apr 30, 2012 8:22am
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Apr 30, 2012 10:27 AM
Skyhook79;1157419 wrote:Did they get married in a Church? By a Pastor/Minister/Priest?
I've never been to a traditional wedding.

I don't see how calling others hypocrites makes the Christians any less hypocritical.
Apr 30, 2012 10:27am
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Apr 30, 2012 10:33 AM
I think that no God existing would be of great benefit. No value (good, evil, etc.). Just a sequence of events. Also, no standards. No absolutes... just events.
Apr 30, 2012 10:33am
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Apr 30, 2012 2:34 PM
sleeper;1157539 wrote:I've never been to a traditional wedding.

I don't see how calling others hypocrites makes the Christians any less hypocritical.
It doesn't. Just because there are hypocritical Christians doesn't mean Christianity is a fraud. Just as there are hypocritical atheist's doesn't make atheism a fraud. Whether Christianity is right or atheist's are right is where faith comes in. I choose Christianity, you choose atheism, in the end we will see who chose the right path or if there is even a right path, which I believe there is.
Apr 30, 2012 2:34pm
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Apr 30, 2012 2:45 PM
Skyhook79;1157763 wrote:It doesn't. Just because there are hypocritical Christians doesn't mean Christianity is a fraud. Just as there are hypocritical atheist's doesn't make atheism a fraud. Whether Christianity is right or atheist's are right is where faith comes in. I choose Christianity, you choose atheism, in the end we will see who chose the right path or if there is even a right path, which I believe there is.
Good point. Christianity on its core fundamentals is a fraud, which has nothing to do with the cult like ceremonies.
Apr 30, 2012 2:45pm
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Apr 30, 2012 3:16 PM
Skyhook79;1157763 wrote:It doesn't. Just because there are hypocritical Christians doesn't mean Christianity is a fraud. Just as there are hypocritical atheist's doesn't make atheism a fraud. Whether Christianity is right or atheist's are right is where faith comes in. I choose Christianity, you choose atheism, in the end we will see who chose the right path or if there is even a right path, which I believe there is.
Where do you stand on Priests raping little boys?
Apr 30, 2012 3:16pm
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Apr 30, 2012 3:22 PM
DeyDurkie5;1157819 wrote:Where do you stand on Priests raping little boys?
They were all "pitiful malcontents" anyway. Apparently the Catholic League isn't for the civil rights of children.
Apr 30, 2012 3:22pm
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Apr 30, 2012 3:24 PM
DeyDurkie5;1157819 wrote:Where do you stand on Priests raping little boys?
Probably the same stance I have on anyone who rapes little boys.
Apr 30, 2012 3:24pm
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Apr 30, 2012 3:38 PM
Skyhook79;1157827 wrote:Probably the same stance I have on anyone who rapes little boys.
Just transfer them without legal punishment so they can do it again? good stance!
Apr 30, 2012 3:38pm
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Apr 30, 2012 3:50 PM
Skyhook79;1157827 wrote:Probably the same stance I have on anyone who rapes little boys.
How do you feel about how they handled raping little boys? ANY other organization, and they most likely go bankrupt. But because it's the "church" it's pushed to the side and hidden for the most part. Hell, sandusky just showered with a kid and he got lambasted for it.
Apr 30, 2012 3:50pm
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Apr 30, 2012 4:02 PM
DeyDurkie5;1157847 wrote:How do you feel about how they handled raping little boys? ANY other organization, and they most likely go bankrupt. But because it's the "church" it's pushed to the side and hidden for the most part. Hell, sandusky just showered with a kid and he got lambasted for it.
10 years after the fact. Not a great example.
Apr 30, 2012 4:02pm
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Apr 30, 2012 4:03 PM
DeyDurkie5;1157847 wrote:How do you feel about how they handled raping little boys? ANY other organization, and they most likely go bankrupt. But because it's the "church" it's pushed to the side and hidden for the most part. Hell, sandusky just showered with a kid and he got lambasted for it.
Penn State didn't get "lambasted" for anything. They never fell apart even though they were definitely guilty of not taking action with Sandusky. Syracuse have yet to fall apart on Bernie Fine's supposed rapes.

The Who got to play the Super Bowl halftime show after Pete Townshend got busted with child porn. Nothing extreme happened to R Kelly. Roman Polanski is still going strong.

I am in no way condoning what the Catholic church has done with the priest scandals...but the "world" is also guilty of such crimes. The "world" gets away with just as much, if not more. Again, this is not condoning anything. I wish those would be punished, and punished severely.
Apr 30, 2012 4:03pm
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Apr 30, 2012 4:03 PM
Raw Dawgin' it;1157836 wrote:Just transfer them without legal punishment so they can do it again? good stance!
That is not my stance, where did I say anything remotely like that?
Apr 30, 2012 4:03pm
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Apr 30, 2012 4:04 PM
DeyDurkie5;1157847 wrote:How do you feel about how they handled raping little boys? ANY other organization, and they most likely go bankrupt. But because it's the "church" it's pushed to the side and hidden for the most part. Hell, sandusky just showered with a kid and he got lambasted for it.
Really? You really believe that?
Apr 30, 2012 4:04pm
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Apr 30, 2012 4:07 PM
I Wear Pants;1157825 wrote:They were all "pitiful malcontents" anyway. Apparently the Catholic League isn't for the civil rights of children.
Should I judge all Gay rights advocates and anti-bullying advocates by what Dan Savage says and does?
Apr 30, 2012 4:07pm
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Apr 30, 2012 4:17 PM
Skyhook79;1157866 wrote:Really? You really believe that?
Not really. But when a company that preaches "love thy neighbor" "be a good person" then turns around and has it's leaders rape boys, It's a bit hypocritical in my eye.
Apr 30, 2012 4:17pm
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Apr 30, 2012 6:16 PM
DeyDurkie5;1157877 wrote:Not really. But when a company that preaches "love thy neighbor" "be a good person" then turns around and has it's leaders rape boys, It's a bit hypocritical in my eye.
They are lawbreakers, sinners and should be justly punished for their actions.
Apr 30, 2012 6:16pm