DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Apr 4, 2012 4:35pm
well to be fair, you are about as biased as it comes with OSU bball. So I don't really take what you have to say about the issue with any real substance.centralbucksfan;1136788 wrote:I am not surprised. Maybe on the all star thing. But in the NBA, you don't see players doubling down often because there are so many other good players on the court, they can't leave and double, triple team. Sullinger had to deal with this every game. Sullinger will have more room to work, face up, etc, etc. And contrary to what many believe, he does have a nice touch shooting the ball. He has good form on this shot facing the basket. Again, I am not saying he will be this and that in the NBA. And it may take him a couple years to develop more. But I think he will do just fine.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Apr 4, 2012 4:42pm
Ahhh, wow, thanks there mr. genius!!DeyDurkie5;1136790 wrote:well to be fair, you are about as biased as it comes with OSU bball. So I don't really take what you have to say about the issue with any real substance.
2kool4skool
Posts: 1,804
Apr 4, 2012 4:54pm
True. Though he may be able to get 10 offensive put backs a game with Ellis and Jennings chucking the ball off the front of the rim 30 times a night.wildcats20;1136768 wrote:Sully will never get any touches in Milwaukee.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Apr 4, 2012 4:56pm
Sullinger has a jumper, he's had one since HS.
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Apr 4, 2012 4:57pm
Sad to see him go, but I wish him luck. I will root for him wherever he ends up.
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enigmaax
Posts: 4,511
Apr 4, 2012 5:07pm
I have no opinion on how Sullinger will do in the NBA, but this guy's opinion - aren't those an awful lot of "IF's"?David Thorpe
(12:47 PM)
We are all entitled to our own opinion. If Sullinger goes to the right team, loses 25 more pounds, and gets super hungry, he's an all-star.
I mean, "if he gets super hungry", what the fuck does that even mean?
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Apr 4, 2012 5:11pm
I don't see him losing ANOTHER 25 pounds.
I would be willing to bet he put almost all of what he lost in the offseason back on.
I would be willing to bet he put almost all of what he lost in the offseason back on.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Apr 4, 2012 5:12pm
Sullinger will be about as good as Chuck Hayes in the NBA.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Apr 4, 2012 5:15pm
He did say Yancy Gates was dominant.centralbucksfan;1136795 wrote:Ahhh, wow, thanks there mr. genius!!
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Apr 4, 2012 5:16pm
I don't see him losing that much either. But no way did he put it all back on. Many think him losing his weight actually hurt him this year. Who knows. Its really on Sullinger on how good he can be, wants to be. Which pretty much goes for everyone. There is a reason some guys are all stars, and others arn't. Its all in their work ethic and how bad they want to be THAT good. Jordan/Bird, Magic were all gifted with talent. But they were also known to work MUCH harder than anyone else, thus them turning into GREAT players. Thats what it really comes down to...how bad does someone really want it.wildcats20;1136821 wrote:I don't see him losing ANOTHER 25 pounds.
I would be willing to bet he put almost all of what he lost in the offseason back on.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Apr 4, 2012 5:17pm
Automatik;1136826 wrote:He did say Yancy Gates was dominant.[/QUOTE
Yancy who?
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Apr 4, 2012 6:00pm
They double all the time in the NBA, how much NBA do you watch?centralbucksfan;1136788 wrote:I am not surprised. Maybe on the all star thing. But in the NBA, you don't see players doubling down often because there are so many other good players on the court, they can't leave and double, triple team. Sullinger had to deal with this every game. Sullinger will have more room to work, face up, etc, etc. And contrary to what many believe, he does have a nice touch shooting the ball. He has good form on this shot facing the basket. Again, I am not saying he will be this and that in the NBA. And it may take him a couple years to develop more. But I think he will do just fine.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Apr 4, 2012 6:02pm
Which would make him a complete bust. Love Chuck Hayes but he's in the league purely on heart and will. He's a 6'6 PF that has somehow made very good money. Sullinger is capable of a lot more.Skyhook79;1136822 wrote:Sullinger will be about as good as Chuck Hayes in the NBA.
As for his weight, he needs to gain about 15 pounds...of muscle. He's got like 20% body fat (just a guess) and is nowhere close to having the physique of players with similar size (Thomas Robinson, Terrrence Jones, James McAdoo) who are of very similar, or even inferior skills.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Apr 4, 2012 6:04pm
Jared Sullinger was not only a two-time AA and a member of back-to-back 30 win teams, he was an excellent representative for the OSU basketball program as well as the University...good luck Sully!
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Apr 4, 2012 6:05pm
That is my point and opinion. I could be wrong.Azubuike24;1136852 wrote:Which would make him a complete bust. Love Chuck Hayes but he's in the league purely on heart and will. He's a 6'6 PF that has somehow made very good money. Sullinger is capable of a lot more.
As for his weight, he needs to gain about 15 pounds...of muscle. He's got like 20% body fat (just a guess) and is nowhere close to having the physique of players with similar size (Thomas Robinson, Terrrence Jones, James McAdoo) who are of very similar, or even inferior skills.
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Apr 4, 2012 6:18pm
If he puts on muscle he could do well. I also think he has a nice shooting touch already but he is also slow and will have trouble guarding someone in the NBA. He is either an undersized 5 or a slow 4.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Apr 4, 2012 6:25pm
That's true. He can definitely tone up, and that will help a few areas of his game.
However, it's clear his limitations in athleticism are there and won't improve much.
However, it's clear his limitations in athleticism are there and won't improve much.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Apr 4, 2012 7:23pm
I'd like to see him end up in Charlotte, play next to Mullens. They need toughness, rebounding and points from the post up game in the paint.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Apr 4, 2012 7:24pm
Charlotte is taking one of the 4 (mabye 5) UNC players. Jordan is still their owner.robj55;1136949 wrote:I'd like to see him end up in Charlotte, play next to Mullens. They need toughness, rebounding and points from the post up game in the paint.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Apr 4, 2012 7:27pm
Good pointLaley23;1136954 wrote:Charlotte is taking one of the 4 (mabye 5) UNC players. Jordan is still their owner.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Apr 4, 2012 7:59pm
Who doesnt? players that are also quite long and athletic. And of course he had a lot of shots blocked against those 2 teams, i guarantee most of them were by Anthony Davis who is blocking absolutely everyone lolcentralbucksfan;1136771 wrote:And what do you think of Thomas Robinson? I counted in the final four, he had 8 of his shots blocked against OSU/UK combined. I believe Sullinger blocked 2 of his shots. I find it a bit funny how everyone points out how Sully struggles against longer athletic types of players. Who the hell doesn't struggle against those kinds of players? lol
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Apr 4, 2012 10:31pm
Those teams you said that aren't in the market for PF's, does that include their PF contract and whether he is a free agent to be or not? Just wondered.2kool4skool;1136766 wrote:The following teams are currently projected to have lottery picks
Charlotte
Washington
New Orleans(2)
Portland(2)
Toronto
Sacramento
Detroit
Cleveland
Utah(2)
Milwaukee
Phoenix
Unfortunately for Sullinger; New Orleans, Portland, Cleveland, Sacramento, Charlotte, Utah, Phoenix and Toronto aren't really in the market for PF's.
That leaves Washington, Detroit, and Milwaukee as potential fits. Barring some unlucky bounces of the ping pong balls, Washington should be picking way too high to take Sullinger. Which leaves only Detroit and Milwaukee as realistic destinations.
He would be replacing Illyasova in Milwaukee, who's played well but I'm not sure is NBA starter quality, and Jason Maxiel in Detroit who is complete trash. Both teams have good guard play(Knight and Stuckey in Detroit, Jennings and Ellis in Milwaukee) so hopefully that could help Sullinger out early.
2kool4skool
Posts: 1,804
Apr 4, 2012 10:33pm
Just based on their current roster, didn't look into contract situation of their existing PF's, though a lot of them were young guys.sportswizuhrd;1137164 wrote:Those teams you said that aren't in the market for PF's, does that include their PF contract and whether he is a free agent to be or not? Just wondered.
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Apr 5, 2012 1:39am
I've seen a lot of mocks have him going to sacramento u sure they don't need him
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Apr 5, 2012 1:42am
They like him being paired with cousins