derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Dec 15, 2009 2:55pm
yes...let's just keep our heads in the sand and let the cost of health care bankrupt the country...weeeeeeeeeeWriterbuckeye wrote: Major props to Joe or anyone else that can effectively derail this piece of garbage.
2quik4u
Posts: 4,388
Dec 15, 2009 3:43pm
When the congressmen decide to vote for what they think is right instead of going along with their party, things will get passed then
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Dec 15, 2009 3:47pm
Typical liberal: you believe ANYTHING, no matter how ridiculously bad and over-reaching it is, is better than nothing. Even w/o a public option or buy-in this piece of garbage effectively gives government bureaucrats control over health programs and decisions. Is that really what you want?derek bomar wrote:yes...let's just keep our heads in the sand and let the cost of health care bankrupt the country...weeeeeeeeeeWriterbuckeye wrote: Major props to Joe or anyone else that can effectively derail this piece of garbage.
I have no problem with actual health care reform. This is like using a howitzer to kill a bug.
derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Dec 15, 2009 3:48pm
what don't you like about allowing people to purchase medicare from 55-64?Writerbuckeye wrote:Typical liberal: you believe ANYTHING, no matter how ridiculously bad and over-reaching it is, is better than nothing. Even w/o a public option or buy-in this piece of garbage effectively gives government bureaucrats control over health programs and decisions. Is that really what you want?derek bomar wrote:yes...let's just keep our heads in the sand and let the cost of health care bankrupt the country...weeeeeeeeeeWriterbuckeye wrote: Major props to Joe or anyone else that can effectively derail this piece of garbage.
I have no problem with actual health care reform. This is like using a howitzer to kill a bug.
derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Dec 15, 2009 3:50pm
cuz ya know Joe liked it 3 months ago...
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/12/14/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5979254.shtml
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/12/14/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5979254.shtml
derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Dec 15, 2009 3:52pm
lol...I would like to see someone spin the last video I posted as anything other than Lieberdousche playing politics
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Dec 15, 2009 3:55pm
I love how you call him Lieberdouche. You're a nut derek--seriously, you're a prime example of why this country is messed up. Lieberman is doing what he thinks is right--which is what they should all be doing. You and most others are way too caught up in party politics.
derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Dec 15, 2009 3:59pm
did you even watch the clip?
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Dec 15, 2009 4:02pm
Why did my post get deleted?
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Dec 15, 2009 4:03pm
3. You must be civil. Name calling will not be tolerated.SQ_Crazies wrote: Why did my post get deleted?
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Dec 15, 2009 4:04pm
Because I said nut...really? Wow.
derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Dec 15, 2009 4:05pm
did you watch the clip I posted? How am I a nut? Dude, he was for something 3 months ago, and now he is against it....please tell me how I am a nut for pointing that out.SQ_Crazies wrote: Because I said nut...really? Wow.
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Dec 15, 2009 4:06pm
Is that the reason it got deleted LJ?
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Dec 15, 2009 4:06pm
Yes, you called him a nut.SQ_Crazies wrote: Is that the reason it got deleted LJ?
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Dec 15, 2009 4:07pm
The bill isn't even the same bill it was 3 months ago and he has every right to change his opinion once he learns more about it--you don't take a side until you vote.derek bomar wrote:did you watch the clip I posted? How am I a nut? Dude, he was for something 3 months ago, and now he is against it....please tell me how I am a nut for pointing that out.SQ_Crazies wrote: Because I said nut...really? Wow.
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Dec 15, 2009 4:07pm
Alright, then give me a permanent ban from the politics forum if it's going to be that lame.
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Dec 15, 2009 4:08pm
Don't care. He made the right decision NOW. Perhaps someone explained to him how much it would cost and that we simply can't afford to do a buy-in AND make dramatic cuts to programs like Advantage and realistically maintain services and keep costs down.derek bomar wrote: did you even watch the clip?
Whatever the reason and however he got there -- he's made the right call now.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Dec 15, 2009 4:09pm
K, if you can't have adult discussions, then you aren't needed here.SQ_Crazies wrote: Alright, then give me a permanent ban from the politics forum if it's going to be that lame.
derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Dec 15, 2009 4:10pm
no offense, but you dont know what you are talking about.SQ_Crazies wrote:The bill isn't even the same bill it was 3 months ago and he has every right to change his opinion once he learns more about it--you don't take a side until you vote.derek bomar wrote:did you watch the clip I posted? How am I a nut? Dude, he was for something 3 months ago, and now he is against it....please tell me how I am a nut for pointing that out.SQ_Crazies wrote: Because I said nut...really? Wow.
he's came out on record saying he's now against the buy-in to medicare for 55-64, when 3 months ago he was for it.
derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Dec 15, 2009 4:11pm
you really think he just finally woke up and saw the light? that's naiveWriterbuckeye wrote:Don't care. He made the right decision NOW. Perhaps someone explained to him how much it would cost and that we simply can't afford to do a buy-in AND make dramatic cuts to programs like Advantage and realistically maintain services and keep costs down.derek bomar wrote: did you even watch the clip?
Whatever the reason and however he got there -- he's made the right call now.
J
jmog
Posts: 6,567
Dec 15, 2009 4:21pm
If you truly believe universal health care will lower health care costs...then you have paid ZERO attention to any country or state in the US that has ever tried universal health care.derek bomar wrote:yes...let's just keep our heads in the sand and let the cost of health care bankrupt the country...weeeeeeeeeeWriterbuckeye wrote: Major props to Joe or anyone else that can effectively derail this piece of garbage.
derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Dec 15, 2009 4:23pm
like the countries in europe who as a % of gdp pay less for it than we do?jmog wrote:If you truly believe universal health care will lower health care costs...then you have paid ZERO attention to any country or state in the US that has ever tried universal health care.derek bomar wrote:yes...let's just keep our heads in the sand and let the cost of health care bankrupt the country...weeeeeeeeeeWriterbuckeye wrote: Major props to Joe or anyone else that can effectively derail this piece of garbage.
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Dec 15, 2009 4:48pm
Perhaps he's the first one to wake up and realize that the country doesn't even want it. Y'know....that whole "represent the people" thingy.derek bomar wrote:you really think he just finally woke up and saw the light? that's naiveWriterbuckeye wrote:Don't care. He made the right decision NOW. Perhaps someone explained to him how much it would cost and that we simply can't afford to do a buy-in AND make dramatic cuts to programs like Advantage and realistically maintain services and keep costs down.derek bomar wrote: did you even watch the clip?
Whatever the reason and however he got there -- he's made the right call now.
derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Dec 15, 2009 4:50pm
yea...or maybe not.fish82 wrote:Perhaps he's the first one to wake up and realize that the country doesn't even want it. Y'know....that whole "represent the people" thingy.derek bomar wrote:you really think he just finally woke up and saw the light? that's naiveWriterbuckeye wrote:Don't care. He made the right decision NOW. Perhaps someone explained to him how much it would cost and that we simply can't afford to do a buy-in AND make dramatic cuts to programs like Advantage and realistically maintain services and keep costs down.derek bomar wrote: did you even watch the clip?
Whatever the reason and however he got there -- he's made the right call now.
believer
Posts: 8,153
Dec 15, 2009 6:24pm
Didn't you really intend for this to read, "Yes...let's just keep our heads in the sand and let government-run health care bankrupt the country"?derek bomar wrote:yes...let's just keep our heads in the sand and let the cost of health care bankrupt the country...weeeeeeeeee