Thread Bomber;1128695 wrote:To avoid a murder rap?.......Uhhhm......Yes.

hoops23;1128697 wrote:Probably.

Not sure why you're getting so defensive about it. Never said that is what happened. I just said I wouldn't put it past him.

It's just funny to me that the dude got his ass kicked when he's twice the kids size. Seems like a certifiable ****.

He stalks the kid, gets his ass beat, then shoots the kid and claims "self defense"

Ytowngirlinfla;1128701 wrote:Just because some guy is double your size doesn't mean you can't kick his ass. I've seen this happen plenty of times.

Ytowngirlinfla;1128702 wrote:According to the police report "Zimmerman, according to the Sentinel report, later told police that he lost sight of Martin and was returning to his SUV when the teen approached him. The two exchanged words, according to Zimmerman, who said Martin then punched him in the nose."

hoops23;1128697 wrote:Probably.

Not sure why you're getting so defensive about it. Never said that is what happened. I just said I wouldn't put it past him.

It's just funny to me that the dude got his ass kicked when he's twice the kids size. Seems like a certifiable ****.

He stalks the kid, gets his ass beat, then shoots the kid and claims "self defense"

hoops23;1128707 wrote:And this never happens if Zimmerman doesn't stalk the kid. If somebody is following me I'm probably going to get defensive and try to gain control of the situation as well.

Point blank.

Ytowngirlinfla;1128702 wrote:According to the police report "Zimmerman, according to the Sentinel report, later told police that he lost sight of Martin and was returning to his SUV when the teen approached him. The two exchanged words, according to Zimmerman, who said Martin then punched him in the nose."

Skyhook79;1128502 wrote:No it wasn't.

Fab1b;1128504 wrote:It was the father's fiance's home

Ytowngirlinfla;1128709 wrote:Not if your 17, why wouldn't you just go home and tell your parents someone was following you? He wasn't stalking the kid. That's a terrible word to use.

Stalking is a term commonly used to refer to unwanted and obsessive attention by an individual or group to another person.

Selma Mora Lamilla, for instance, told police in her 911 call that she did not hear any altercation, but did hear as someone cried and "whimpered" before the shooting.

And Martin's girlfriend was on the phone with him the entire time, according to a lawyer for the shooting victim's family. Benjamin Crump said last week that the girl "completely blows Zimmerman's absurd self-defense claim out of the water."

What is evident is that, minutes after that Zimmerman's first 911 call, police arrived at the scene. They found Martin "laying face down in the grass," according to a police report. He had been unarmed, carrying only a bag of Skittles candy and an iced tea.

hoops23;1128728 wrote:From the CNN article.

So, the police arrived MINUTES after the initial 911 call. Is "minutes" really long enough to get into a full blown altercation? You also have a neighbor claiming she didn't hear any altercation, but heard somebody whimpering and crying right before the shot was fired.

So, sounds like Martin was pleading for his life to me.

hoops23;1128673 wrote:What's funny is how Zimmerman is much older and basically twice the kids size, yet it seems he got his ass kicked...

Or, he rolled around in the grass, etc, after shooting and killing Martin to make it look like there was a scuffle.

mcburg93;1128752 wrote:Its sad no matter how you look at it. The guy should never got out of his car after the cop told him not to. In my eyes he guilty on that alone.

Fab1b;1128754 wrote:That is what I have been saying all along, it went wrong when Zimmerman got out of his car. Everything that happened from that point on was his fault! Anything that comes out on how the "fight" actually went down, phone calls, witness statements, etc.......None of that happens if Zimmerman follows directions given by the 911 dispatcher.

friendfromlowry;1128755 wrote:This is another viewpoint I don't understand. In the CNN article from today, the way they make it sound, Zimmerman is going about his business when he notices Martin...he gets out of his car or whatever and starts his pursuit because he thinks Martin looks suspicious. He then calls the cops because he wants them to check it out, and he tells the dispatcher he's following him. The dispatcher tells him we dont need you to follow him, so he stops and heads back to his car, where Martin then confronts him and said altercation ensues.
I'm not being a smart ass because I really dont know - did someone post something that proved Zimmerman was acting out of his scope of practice or deliberately disobeying authorities?

Fab1b;1128760 wrote:I haven't read or seen the exact point where the fight occurred, if Zimmerman got out of his car to pursue and lost sight of him, think the kid shook him then when he noticed Zimmerman had his backed turned to head back to car he attacked at that point, thinking Zimmerman was heading back to his car to continue looking for him?

Ytowngirlinfla;1128768 wrote:I also love how the new black panther group has issued money for the capture of him. The Anti-Defamation League, the Southern Poverty Law Center, and the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights consider the New Black Panthers to be a hate group. But no one is saying anything about that. So a hate group wants to get a supposed racist. I guess 2 wrongs make it right?