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Feb 27, 2012 8:52 PM
ccrunner609;1098252 wrote:no, no, no, no.....this doesnt SOLVE the problem.

I used to build poored wall basements and allowing water to come in through any part is not what you want. If I could see pics of the porch and interrior wall I migh be able to help.

Is the water coming in through he sill plate or through the actual wall?

Does the porch have a foundation that is part of the house foundation or was it added later?

Usually water coming in or dampness in the basement can be diverted by making sure that run off water from the roof is ran far from the foundation. Where do you downspouts go?
Might be able to post some pictures tomorrow. The water is coming through both the sill plate and the actual wall. The porch was definitely added after.

I don't think the downspouts are part of the problem for this. Like I said, the water is coming in above grade. The downspouts drain about four feet lower than where we are getting water in.
Feb 27, 2012 8:52pm
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Feb 27, 2012 8:53 PM
sherm03;1098236 wrote:This won't stop the water from coming from through the porch and hitting the new sill plate.

After doing some research, we may be contacting a lawyer. Apparently when you buy a house, by law you are supposed to receive a Property Disclosure Form. We never got that document. It probably won't be too hard proving, too, that he knew about it beforehand. So we might have something to go on here. Planning on calling a few attorneys tomorrow.
You said it was coming thru the wall and the sill plate was rotted
Feb 27, 2012 8:53pm
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Feb 27, 2012 8:56 PM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1098261 wrote:You said it was coming thru the wall and the sill plate was rotted
Sorry...I worded that weird in the initial post. The water is settling where the porch meets the house, and coming through the sill plate (which is now rotted)...AND it's coming through the walls in other places.
Feb 27, 2012 8:56pm
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Feb 27, 2012 8:58 PM
ccrunner609;1098269 wrote:Is it coming throught he wall as in leaking or overly damp?
Leaking.
Feb 27, 2012 8:58pm
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Feb 27, 2012 9:01 PM
dwccrew;1098133 wrote:If you can somehow prove that the former owner had knowledge of this problem before you bought the property and that it was never disclosed, you may be able to seek legal action. I'd consult an attorney and see if that is an option. At the very least you could really hurt the reputation of his realty company.
sherm03;1098236 wrote: After doing some research, we may be contacting a lawyer. Apparently when you buy a house, by law you are supposed to receive a Property Disclosure Form. We never got that document. It probably won't be too hard proving, too, that he knew about it beforehand. So we might have something to go on here. Planning on calling a few attorneys tomorrow.
You're welcome.
Feb 27, 2012 9:01pm
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Feb 27, 2012 9:03 PM
The sill plate is rotted because there is moisture trapped in the blocks. Concrete blocks will let moisture weep upward toward the sill plate. After replacing the plate, you need to waterproof the walls from the exterior. Using a product like Dry-Lock paint will allow the water into the block and allow it to work its way up.

I agree with an interior drain and sump pump, but that will only divert water once inside the walls. A footer drain or French drain and parging the walls from the outside is the best solution.

Where the porch meets the rest of the wall, you need to add some flashing between the porch and the wall. Aluminum will work unless your porch is made of treated lumber, then a vinyl product will work best.
Feb 27, 2012 9:03pm
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Feb 27, 2012 9:11 PM
dwccrew;1098280 wrote:You're welcome.
LOL. I got a PM about contacting a lawyer as well. But yes, your post did inspire me to look to see if they are required by law to disclose anything like this...which they are.
THE4RINGZ;1098284 wrote:The sill plate is rotted because there is moisture trapped in the blocks. Concrete blocks will let moisture weep upward toward the sill plate. After replacing the plate, you need to waterproof the walls from the exterior. Using a product like Dry-Lock paint will allow the water into the block and allow it to work its way up.

I agree with an interior drain and sump pump, but that will only divert water once inside the walls. A footer drain or French drain and parging the walls from the outside is the best solution.

Where the porch meets the rest of the wall, you need to add some flashing between the porch and the wall. Aluminum will work unless your porch is made of treated lumber, then a vinyl product will work best.
The water weeping upwards may have added to the rotting, but there is definitely water coming in directly on the sill plate. There are puddles literally every time it rains where the porch meets the house. That water is seeping in and coming over the sill plate and down the wall. Then there is also spots further down where we get some water seeping through the walls as well. But the majority comes in at the very top of the foundation wall.
Feb 27, 2012 9:11pm
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Feb 27, 2012 9:19 PM
dwccrew;1098280 wrote:You're welcome.
You win this thread, good job.
Feb 27, 2012 9:19pm
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Feb 27, 2012 9:37 PM
Call holmes on homes brah
Feb 27, 2012 9:37pm
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Feb 27, 2012 9:39 PM
LJ;1098326 wrote:Call holmes on homes brah
Sadly...looked into that back in the fall. The show is just in Canada, though.
Feb 27, 2012 9:39pm
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Feb 27, 2012 9:53 PM
Sonofanump;1098308 wrote:You win this thread, good job.
Why would I win the thread? Was it up as some sort of prize? I would expect you to know being the son of an ump.
Feb 27, 2012 9:53pm
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Feb 27, 2012 9:55 PM
sherm03;1098329 wrote:Sadly...looked into that back in the fall. The show is just in Canada, though.
I've seen U.S. episodes....weird

Maybe they were only one offs. Just keep bombarding them till you get a cease & desist
Feb 27, 2012 9:55pm
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Feb 27, 2012 9:57 PM
Just burn your house down. That'll show 'em.
Feb 27, 2012 9:57pm
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Feb 27, 2012 11:32 PM
ccrunner is correct in everything he is telling you. Putting a pump inside is just hiding the problem and you will have problems later on with the wall.
Feb 27, 2012 11:32pm
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Feb 27, 2012 11:36 PM
password;1098623 wrote:ccrunner is correct in everything he is telling you. Putting a pump inside is just hiding the problem and you will have problems later on with the wall.
Hell has frozen over.
Feb 27, 2012 11:36pm
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Feb 28, 2012 1:52 AM
i knew you would have probs when you posted pics of the POS house


hope this help
Feb 28, 2012 1:52am
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Feb 28, 2012 1:58 AM
dwccrew;1098351 wrote:Why would I win the thread? Was it up as some sort of prize? I would expect you to know being the son of an ump.
I am serious, you had the correct answer early on. I just posted you win instead of +1, or yes, or I concur.
Feb 28, 2012 1:58am
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Feb 28, 2012 6:58 AM
Sherman, this is the funniest stuff you've ever posted. Well done, comedian.
Feb 28, 2012 6:58am
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Feb 28, 2012 7:03 AM
ccrunner609;1098252 wrote:
I migh be able to help.
This is going to end well, I can feel it.
Feb 28, 2012 7:03am
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Feb 28, 2012 7:06 AM
ccrunner609;1098252 wrote:
I migh be able to help.
password;1098623 wrote:ccrunner is correct in everything he is telling you.


Oo!


chicago510;1098628 wrote:Hell has frozen over.

reps
Feb 28, 2012 7:06am
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Feb 28, 2012 8:38 AM
1_beast;1098762 wrote:i knew you would have probs when you posted pics of the POS house


hope this help
Impressive. And yes, it helps.
ernest_t_bass;1098792 wrote:Sherman, this is the funniest stuff you've ever posted. Well done, comedian.
I don't get it. But whatever makes you laugh, I guess. Again, helpful. Thanks.
Feb 28, 2012 8:38am
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Feb 28, 2012 9:00 AM
just messing with you....Pedorunner609 has your solution...
Feb 28, 2012 9:00am
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Feb 28, 2012 9:05 AM
1_beast;1098849 wrote:just messing with you....Pedorunner609 has your solution...
I wasn't pissed. If you start a thread on here and don't expect responses like that, you're retarded.

Agreed that 609 has the right solution. We just can't find anyone that does that work. I've signed up for Angie's List to try to find someone. Waiting on a few contractors to call me back now.
Feb 28, 2012 9:05am
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Feb 28, 2012 9:17 AM
IDK about your area, but any "general" waterproofing company should be able to do it.....

they are alll over the place in this area.
Feb 28, 2012 9:17am
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Feb 28, 2012 9:25 AM
1_beast;1098855 wrote:IDK about your area, but any "general" waterproofing company should be able to do it.....

they are alll over the place in this area.
I've struck out with five waterproofing companies so far, and all said they can't do anything about the porch...and they won't even touch the sill plate. That's why I figured a general contractor would be best, since it seems as though we're going to have to completely rip the porch out and build a new one after the sill plate is replaced.
Feb 28, 2012 9:25am