School shooting in Chardon

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Fab1b
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Feb 28, 2012 1:57pm
I really don't want to point this out but no write up on the black kid?
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Feb 28, 2012 1:59pm
Fab1b;1099172 wrote:I really don't want to point this out but no write up on the black kid?

I was thinking the same thing.
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Feb 28, 2012 2:01pm
Fab1b;1099172 wrote:I really don't want to point this out but no write up on the black kid?
I thought this as well lol.
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Con_Alma
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Feb 28, 2012 2:04pm
SnotBubbles;1099157 wrote:...

[LEFT]A friend, Nate Mueller, said Russell had begun dating a former girlfriend of T.J. Lane, the suspected shooter. But Nate said there was no indication that Russell's relationship with the girl was a motive in the shooting. ...[/LEFT]
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There are rumors buzzing around that the motivation for the shooting was based on fake drugs having been sold to the shooter.
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Gblock
Feb 28, 2012 2:05pm
i just realized the shooter didnt go to the school? How did he get in? In our district all doors are secured and the only door you can get in is by the office and then you have to sign in...most schools actually have a buzzer for you to get in as well
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Feb 28, 2012 2:08pm
Con_Alma;1099197 wrote:[/LEFT]
There are rumors buzzing around that the motivation for the shooting was based on fake drugs being sold to the shooter.
Must be the black guys story.

/racist joke
Gblock;1099198 wrote:i just realized the shooter didnt go to the school? How did he get in? In our district all doors are secured and the only door you can get in is by the office and then you have to sign in...most schools actually have a buzzer for you to get in as well
If he didn't go to the school, then there was some serious breaching. But in all reality, he could have gotten in in the morning with the rest of students.
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Feb 28, 2012 2:12pm
Gblock;1099198 wrote:i just realized the shooter didnt go to the school? How did he get in? In our district all doors are secured and the only door you can get in is by the office and then you have to sign in...most schools actually have a buzzer for you to get in as well

Also did not realize he wasn't a student there
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WebFire
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Feb 28, 2012 2:14pm
Fab1b;1099226 wrote:Also did not realize he wasn't a student there
Says who?
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Gblock
Feb 28, 2012 2:18pm
Five students were shot at Chardon High School at about 7:30 a.m. on Monday. The alleged shooter, T.J. Lane, was a student at a nearby alternative school.

apparently he went to a school nearby for students with behavior problems


Lane did not go to Chardon High, instead attending nearby Lake Academy, which is for students with academic or behavioral problems.
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Feb 28, 2012 2:29pm
I got the impression the shooter was there because students within the school district meet there then are taken/bussed over to the alternative and/or JVS schools.
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Con_Alma
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Feb 28, 2012 2:30pm
That's correct Apple.
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Feb 28, 2012 2:45pm
Fab1b;1098864 wrote:Some people after events like this or people's death don't just want to say what needs to be said.
Or some people aren't reactionaries.
Also when we talk about generations, I don't recall kids shooting up schools in my days.
You didn't pay attention then.
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MontyBrunswick
Feb 28, 2012 2:47pm
Gblock;1099198 wrote:i just realized the shooter didnt go to the school? How did he get in? In our district all doors are secured and the only door you can get in is by the office and then you have to sign in...most schools actually have a buzzer for you to get in as well
Just because your district had it, means all other districts must too!

right?!
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Feb 28, 2012 3:00pm
Fab1b;1099172 wrote:I really don't want to point this out but no write up on the black kid?
He passed away this afternoon.
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Feb 28, 2012 3:01pm
Fab1b;1099172 wrote:I really don't want to point this out but no write up on the black kid?
He just died. I couldn't find anything on him yet. Besides the fact that his family was sad.
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Feb 28, 2012 3:01pm
I lisended to some coverage on ABC radio today, the shooter had attended Chardon HS, but was now attending another school. They also interviewed some students who knew him and they all said he always seemed like a pretty nice kid.
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Feb 28, 2012 3:02pm
2kool4skool;1099292 wrote:Or some people aren't reactionaries.



You didn't pay attention then.

Either did you, read any of my later posts?
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Feb 28, 2012 3:02pm
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/la-na-nn-third-student-dies-20120228,0,2345555.story
Hewlin's family issued a statement praising their son and asking for privacy.
“We are very saddened by the loss of our son and others in our Chardon community,” the statement read.
“Demetrius was a happy young man who loved life and his family and friends. We will miss him very much but we are proud that he will be able to help others through organ donation. We ask that you respect our privacy during this difficult time,” the family asked.
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Feb 28, 2012 3:21pm
Fab1b;1099321 wrote:Either did you, read any of my later posts?
So you acknowledge you made a generalization without even a 10 second google search to find what the reality is. Like I said, maybe it's not that some people are "afraid to say what needs to be said," but that some people aren't reactionaries who fly off into sweeping generalizations and criticisms any time there's a tragedy involving young people.
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Feb 28, 2012 3:23pm
2kool4skool;1099357 wrote:So you acknowledge you made a generalization without even a 10 second google search to find what the reality is. Like I said, maybe it's not that some people are "afraid to say what needs to be said," but that some people aren't reactionaries who fly off into sweeping generalizations and criticisms any time there's a tragedy involving young people.

No I'll still call it what it is exactly what I said it is!! I was referring to the school shooting stats and the reason it seemed like there weren't a number of comparison to today.
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Feb 28, 2012 3:25pm
Fab1b;1099362 wrote:No I'll still call it what it is exactly what I said it is!!
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Feb 28, 2012 3:26pm
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Feb 28, 2012 3:30pm
Fab1b;1099362 wrote: I was referring to the school shooting stats and the reason it seemed like there weren't a number of comparison to today.
No, you were supporting your argument that one generation is superior to another by generalizing that in your recollection, school shootings didn't happen "in your day."

See below:
Fab1b;1098864 wrote:Some people after events like this or people's death don't just want to say what needs to be said. I will! Also when we talk about generations, I don't recall kids shooting up schools in my days.
This later turned out to be untrue, which a 10 second google search could have confirmed for you. But like I said, you're a reactionary and decided to just run with your assumption.

The predictability of the "this generation sucks, mine was better" crowd coming into this thread makes it pretty funny though.
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Feb 28, 2012 3:37pm
But that had nothing to do with what I called the situation and my reaction of not being PC and calling the kid a bitch and a coward. Doesn't change that! Also you feel the need to point this out after I admitted it myself but as I state I still don't know why it gets to that point. Whether its a generation thing, etc...I don't have the answers and either do you!
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Feb 28, 2012 3:47pm
Fab1b;1099374 wrote:I don't have the answers and either do you!
Agreed, but I'm not the one that tried to generalize an entire generation as inferior in some way. The generalizing is nothing more than an example of Serial position effect, which always comes into play in instances like this.