Id say 8-4 is most realistic. 7-5 is doable, but would not be good for BK. 9-3 is also doable and would be great for BK. Anything over 10, and ND is looking at being preseason contender for the national title (since they will get their 3 toughest games with 1st year starting QBs in 2013...OKL at home, USC at home and UofM on road).

I, and the Vegas odds for next year, agree with everyone except Durkie so far. I could see us beating Michigan State, but could also see us somehow dropping to Michigan, BYU, or Miami (I don't see us losing to Navy or Stanford though). Oklahoma will be a tough game and I expect to lose, but stranger things have happened. USC should be uggo. We are VERY VERY questionable in the secondary and Matt Barkley, Robert Woods and Marquise Lee might be the three BEST players in the nation-- REGARDLESS of position... Doesn't bode well

Having faith in my team is one thing but being able to live with myself is another. I'll see you on the av and sig but no way am I drinking a fruity's fruity.

athlete37;1199223 wrote:I, and the Vegas odds for next year, agree with everyone except Durkie so far. I could see us beating Michigan State, but could also see us somehow dropping to Michigan, BYU, or Miami (I don't see us losing to Navy or Stanford though). Oklahoma will be a tough game and I expect to lose, but stranger things have happened. USC should be uggo. We are VERY VERY questionable in the secondary and Matt Barkley, Robert Woods and Marquise Lee might be the three BEST players in the nation-- REGARDLESS of position... Doesn't bode well

I honestly think Stanford could be a sleeper team this year, they have got good players still and a great system, they should bounce back from losing luck better than say a Baylor would losing RGIII.

OneBuckeye;1199386 wrote:I honestly think Stanford could be a sleeper team this year, they have got good players still and a great system, they should bounce back from losing luck better than say a Baylor would losing RGIII.

I also think Stanford is here to stay, they have had very good recruiting classes lately. They will continue to reap the benefits of Andrew Luck for years to come.

"@ChiTribHamilton: As completely expected, ABC or ESPN will broadcast #NotreDame at USC on Nov. 24. Kickoff still TBD. Guessing 7pm or 8pm ET."

It'll be 8:00 pm on ABC.

sleeper;1195522 wrote:When ND gets a new 5-star recruit, telling ND fans that I don't think he will pan out based on the past 20 or so 5-star recruits that ND has gotten(outside of Floyd, who I don't know if he was a 5-star) that haven't panned out.

Five star players who were drafted:

Michael Floyd
Manti Te'o
Kyle Rudolph
Jimmy Clausen
Victor Abriamiri
Sam Young

Stephon Tuitt looks like he's well on his way to "panning out."

Those who didn't "pan out:"

James Aldridge
Dayne Crist

So once again, you show the world how ignorant you are.

Just saw a couple things on twitter that ND will announce they will be joining the Big XII in everything except football around July 1.

karen lotz;1204099 wrote:Just saw a couple things on twitter that ND will announce they will be joining the Big XII in everything except football around July 1.

WHAT???

I dunno, couple people citing "sources" and a guy that has some sort of connection to the football program tweeted about ND, Louisville and FSU to the Big XII.

I'd be disappointed to be honest. If they're gonna join a conference, and I think they should, that conference should be the B1G.

Do. Not. Like.

LOL wtfbbq, but sure how reliable it is but the one guy just tweeted it includes football.

"@ChatIrish: Very reliable source tells us at #ChatSports that ND to Big 12 includes football."

This guy has never broken any kind of news before so I don't know how good his source is.

I doubt it

@ChipBrownOB: Sources in B12 tell OB Notre Dame moving Olympic sports into #Big12 becoming more and more likely. ... http://t.co/r0EsYb9n #ND #cfb

Read that link. Sounds like there might be something to the ND-Big XII rumor...down the road.

Not so fast says Swarbrick...

http://irish.nbcsports.com/2012/06/20/swarbrick-pumps-brakes-on-big-12-talks/


Chip Brown is one of the worst in the business in taking bad rumors and conjuring up these great ideas from them.

karen lotz;1206843 wrote:Not so fast says Swarbrick...

http://irish.nbcsports.com/2012/06/20/swarbrick-pumps-brakes-on-big-12-talks/


Chip Brown is one of the worst in the business in taking bad rumors and conjuring up these great ideas from them.

Somebody I follow on Twitter retweeted what Brown tweeted and that's how I saw it. I didn't take it as a foregone conclusion but didn't know he was that unreliable.

That being said, who knows what to believe at this point. Swarbrick probably won't tip his hand regardless as he seems to play things close to the chest.

linebacker out of WA Danny Mattingly ( nephew of Don) committed to ND after his visit.

Jaylon Smith - * * * * * OLB (Indiana) - 6'3 215 - Alabama, Auburn, Florida, FSU, Miami, Michigan, MSU, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Oregon, USC
Isaac Rochell - * * * * DE (Georgia) - 6'5 - Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Oklahoma, Virginia Tech
Hunter Bivin - * * * * OT (Kentucky) - 6'7 310 - Auburn, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Michigan, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Wisconsin
Steven Elmer - * * * * OT (Michigan) - 6'6 315 - Michigan, Michigan State, Stanford, Wisconsin
Malik Zaire - * * * * QB (Ohio) - 6'1 185 - Alabama, Nebraska, Ohio State, Wisconsin
Rashad Kinlaw - * * * * CB (New Jersey) - 6'0 175 - Boston College, Iowa, Rugters
Mike McGlinchey - * * * * OT (Pennsylvania) - 6'9 280 - Florida State, Miami, Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State, Wisconsin
Mike McGovern - * * * * OT (Illinois) - 6'6 295 - Alabama, Michigan, Nebraska, Ohio State, West Virginia, Wisconsin
John Montelus - * * * * OG (Massachusetts) - 6'5 305 - Florida, Miami, Michigan, Nebraska, Ohio State, West Virginia
Danny Mattingly - * * * * OLB (Washington) - 6'5 220 - Alabama, Boise State, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Oregon
Mike Heuerman - * * * * TE (Florida) - 6'4 215 - Floria State, LSU, Miami, Michigan State, Ohio State, South Carolina
Devin Butler - * * * * CB (Washington DC) - 6'1 80 - Michigan, Michigan State, Nebraska, Penn State, West Virginia, Wisconsin
James Onwualu - * * * * WR (Minnesota) - 6'3 205 - Nebraska, Michigan, Stanford, Wisconsin
Jacob Matuska - * * * DE (Ohio) - 6'5 240 - Michigan, Nebraska, Oklahoma
Michael Deeb - * * * ILB (Florida) - 6'2 230 - Florida State, Illinois, Penn State, South Florida, West Virginia
Corey Robinson - * * * WR (Texas) - 6'5 195 - Iowa, North Carolina, TCU







Any time you pick up a linebacker from Washington who has an offer from Alabama, it's a good thing. If Alabama feels the need to go all of the way to practically Idaho to try to get him...he's gotta be unreal athletically.


Notre Dame's class now ranks:

247 - #6
Rivals - #9
Scout - #3

I hoping for anzalone too. And another corner or 2 and it will be a great class

I hoping for anzalone too. And another corner or 2 and it will be a great class

ccrunner will enjoy this:


Irish Illustrated ‏@NDatRivals
If you're curious, Mattingly commit keeps Irish No. 9 in Rivals team rankings. ND may lead nation in 3-stars on verge of adding a fourth.

I thought the same thing.

I think everyone but Matuska is a four-star guy. And even Matuska is a four-star guy on two services.

I'm really, really impressed by this staff's recruiting this year. Last year's class fell off about as badly as you can imagine and three (right?) coaches moved on and they said "fuck it.." and went to work. It's been cool to see.

Add an ILB from Miami. Michael Deeb.

The class is up to #3 in the country on 247, and that's before guys like Mattingly, Montelus, Onwualu, Butler etc get their expected bumps.

Only 4-6 spots left. Need 1) one punter, 2) 1-2 LB's, 3) 1-2 RB's.

Malik Zaire - * * * * QB (Ohio) - 6'1 185 - Alabama, Nebraska, Ohio State, Wisconsin

James Onwualu - * * * WR (Minnesota) - 6'2 205 - Nebraska, Michigan, Stanford, Wisconsin
Corey Robinson - * * * WR (Texas) - 6'5 195 - Iowa, North Carolina, TCU

Mike Heuerman - * * * * TE (Florida) - 6'4 215 - Floria State, LSU, Miami, Michigan State, Ohio State, South Carolina

Hunter Bivin - * * * * OT (Kentucky) - 6'7 310 - Auburn, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Michigan, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Wisconsin
Steven Elmer - * * * * OT (Michigan) - 6'6 315 - Michigan, Michigan State, Stanford, Wisconsin
Mike McGlinchey - * * * * OT (Pennsylvania) - 6'9 280 - Florida State, Miami, Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State, Wisconsin
Mike McGovern - * * * * OT (Illinois) - 6'6 295 - Alabama, Michigan, Nebraska, Ohio State, West Virginia, Wisconsin
John Montelus - * * * * OG (Massachusetts) - 6'5 305 - Florida, Miami, Michigan, Nebraska, Ohio State, West Virginia

Isaac Rochell - * * * * DE (Georgia) - 6'5 - Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Oklahoma, Virginia Tech
Jacob Matuska - * * * DE (Ohio) - 6'5 240 - Michigan, Nebraska, Oklahoma

Michael Deeb - * * * ILB (Florida) - 6'2 230 - Florida State, Illinois, Penn State, South Florida, West Virginia
Danny Mattingly - * * * * OLB (Washington) - 6'5 220 - Alabama, Boise State, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Oregon
Jaylon Smith - * * * * * OLB (Indiana) - 6'3 215 - Alabama, Auburn, Florida, FSU, Miami, Michigan, MSU, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Oregon, USC

Rashad Kinlaw - * * * * CB (New Jersey) - 6'0 175 - Boston College, Iowa, Rugters
Devin Butler - * * * * CB (Washington DC) - 6'2 180 - Michigan, Michigan State, Nebraska, Penn State, West Virginia, Wisconsin

Another nice get with Deeb. One more lb spot to fill.