They're a national brand but it would limit them to the midwest? That doesn't make any sense. Pick one or the other.karen lotz;1179617 wrote:They are a national brand. Joining the B1G would limit ND to the midwest and shrink their footprint significantly.
dlazz;1179837 wrote:They're a national brand but it would limit them to the midwest? That doesn't make any sense. Pick one or the other.
If it was about cash, the Big Ten is their best bet. They aren't going to get into the SEC, so the Big Ten is their next option. The Big Ten stood there with open arms and ND didn't budge.
I assume you have to have a sports package to get it right? Inside the B1G's region its included on basic cable I believe.Midstate01;1179881 wrote:Btn isn't picked up around the country? I have it on time warner here in Hawaii. Also had it in Mississippi. I assumed it was nationwide because of that.
It's exactly what you said.karen lotz;1179641 wrote:Its not too big, that's not what I'm saying. Not shocked you aren't able to figure that out.
With that aspect, then ANY conference is too limiting.WebFire;1179892 wrote:National brand and the B1G would be limiting.
Name any other conference or program trying to narrow its reach. There was interest among B1G fans wanting Rutgers so it could expand its footprint. Why do you think ND should want to become a less visible program? If the B1G fit what ND wanted, they would have joined 20 years ago, or 10 years ago, or 2 years ago or any other time there were talks. I blame Fielding Yost for your narrow view.WebFire;1179892 wrote:It's exactly what you said.
National brand and the B1G would be limiting. What part of that isn't "ND - too big for the B1G"?
Not shocked you try to deny something you said.
It does...but MEANINGFUL games on ND's schedule would quickly get picked up by ESPN's and ABC's of the world...karen lotz;1179848 wrote:I don't see the BTN being picked up around the entire country. Does that make more sense?
dlazz;1179901 wrote:With that aspect, then ANY conference is too limiting.
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOLdlazz;1179903 wrote: The way their schedule is now is a bunch of shit competition and USC. At least in the BTN they'd have Michigan, OSU's, Penn States, etc...
They play Michigan every year. As well as Michigan State.dlazz;1179903 wrote:It does...but MEANINGFUL games on ND's schedule would quickly get picked up by ESPN's and ABC's of the world...
The way their schedule is now is a bunch of shit competition and USC. At least in the BTN they'd have Michigan, OSU's, Penn States, etc...
(I know they played Michigan last year).
No, I understand that.karen lotz;1179904 wrote:You think? Any conference is more limiting that independence. That is a difficult concept?
dlazz;1179903 wrote:It does...but MEANINGFUL games on ND's schedule would quickly get picked up by ESPN's and ABC's of the world...
The way their schedule is now is a bunch of shit competition and USC. At least in the BTN they'd have Michigan, OSU's, Penn States, etc...
(I know they played Michigan last year).
Their past few years have been a joke. I do agree that this years schedule is solid. They'll also have a comparable/worse record this year than in years past. Book it!killer_ewok;1179932 wrote:They play what looks to be a pretty difficult schedule this season. USC...Probably preseason #1, returning almost everybody. Do you really consider Oklahoma "shit" competition? Michigan, Michigan State, Stanford, Miami(FL)...granted Miami isn't what they used to be but....it's not like the schedule is USC and then just shit.
So you are saying they don't want to join the B1G because it will narrow their reach. In other words they are bigger than the B1G. Isn't that what I said?karen lotz;1179902 wrote:Name any other conference or program trying to narrow its reach. There was interest among B1G fans wanting Rutgers so it could expand its footprint. Why do you think ND should want to become a less visible program? If the B1G fit what ND wanted, they would have joined 20 years ago, or 10 years ago, or 2 years ago or any other time there were talks. I blame Fielding Yost for your narrow view.
smhdlazz;1179958 wrote:Their past few years have been a joke. I do agree that this years schedule is solid. They'll also have a comparable/worse record this year than in years past. Book it!
Actually, according to the panel on ESPNU's College Football Live today, ND will play arguably the toughest schedule in the country this season...just sayin'dlazz;1179903 wrote:It does...but MEANINGFUL games on ND's schedule would quickly get picked up by ESPN's and ABC's of the world...
The way their schedule is now is a bunch of **** competition and USC. At least in the BTN they'd have Michigan, OSU's, Penn States, etc...
(I know they played Michigan last year).
Someone didn't read the past few posts.vball10set;1179976 wrote:Actually, according to the panel on ESPNU's College Football Live today, ND will play arguably the toughest schedule in the country this season...just sayin'
WebFire;1179960 wrote:So you are saying they don't want to join the B1G because it will narrow their reach. In other words they are bigger than the B1G. Isn't that what I said?
dlazz;1179958 wrote:Their past few years have been a joke. I do agree that this years schedule is solid. They'll also have a comparable/worse record this year than in years past. Book it!
I kind of do mean that. Won't they make more money in the B1G than independent? If so, what does their reach matter?karen lotz;1179978 wrote:no, I take you saying they are too big to mean they are too good for the big ten. I'm not saying that.
WebFire;1180017 wrote:I kind of do mean that. Won't they make more money in the B1G than independent? If so, what does their reach matter?
So it's not about money? Then you are saying they are too good for the B1G.karen lotz;1180019 wrote:They make plenty of money as is.