Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Apr 2, 2012 1:04pm
SportsAndLady;1134303 wrote:For the Padres..
Really? Lol.
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rugbywrestler
Posts: 462
Apr 2, 2012 1:07pm
Also being reported that Janish has been cut
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Apr 2, 2012 1:10pm
And Votto and the club are nearing an extension.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Apr 2, 2012 1:13pm
wildcats20;1134469 wrote:And Votto and the club are nearing an extension.
Look up.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Apr 2, 2012 1:14pm
lol
I even read that post.
I even read that post.
TedSheckler
Posts: 3,974
Apr 2, 2012 1:20pm
FSNOhio posted this on FB. I'll believe it when I see it. Votto extension=Phillips, no extension.
Also, Janish cut and Champman to the bullpen.
Also, Janish cut and Champman to the bullpen.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Apr 2, 2012 1:25pm
Trade Phillips ASAP. If you can't resign him, trade him. He's going to be pissed!!
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Apr 2, 2012 1:27pm
Really hope BP doesn't become a cancer in the locker room if he's not extended.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Apr 2, 2012 1:28pm
se-alum;1134492 wrote:Really hope BP doesn't become a cancer in the locker room if he's not extended.
I love the guy. But I could def see that happening. He wears his emotions on his sleeve. I won't be surprised to hear him say something stupid.
TedSheckler
Posts: 3,974
Apr 2, 2012 1:32pm
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Apr 2, 2012 2:35pm
The Reds can afford Phillips, but not on a long-term deal. If he's willing to take a 2-year deal and give a slight discount, maybe 2 years, 21M or something, keep him. If not, he's going to walk. He's not worth more, especially not more years...
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Apr 2, 2012 2:36pm
Votto signing a long-term contract = six to midnight. Barring injury Votto would likely be the Reds greatest hitter of all-time when he retires.
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Jawbreaker
Posts: 520
Apr 2, 2012 2:36pm
I can see him playing lights out to get a big contract somewhere else or he could go the cancer route. Either way is possible.se-alum;1134492 wrote:Really hope BP doesn't become a cancer in the locker room if he's not extended.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Apr 2, 2012 2:40pm
I wouldnt throw a ton of money at BP. Gotta be smart and offer a good, solid fair deal. If he doesnt like it.......let me play with a chip on his shoulder all season to get a big time FA deal elsewhere.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Apr 2, 2012 3:13pm
and as far as teh votto rumor....
>...i said it a few times before....that I wasnt sold on the fact that he was gonna be gone. I had a feeling that he would stay...although I admit I was in the minority.
>...i said it a few times before....that I wasnt sold on the fact that he was gonna be gone. I had a feeling that he would stay...although I admit I was in the minority.
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Jawbreaker
Posts: 520
Apr 2, 2012 3:17pm
congratulations?thavoice;1134565 wrote:and as far as teh votto rumor....
>...i said it a few times before....that I wasnt sold on the fact that he was gonna be gone. I had a feeling that he would stay...although I admit I was in the minority.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 2, 2012 3:38pm
Lol for some reason I thought you were an Indians fan and saw he was starting opening day and thought he still played for the reds lol my badMidstate01;1134461 wrote:Really? Lol.
Great news on votto if true
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Apr 2, 2012 3:49pm
SportsAndLady;1134590 wrote:Lol for some reason I thought you were an Indians fan and saw he was starting opening day and thought he still played for the reds lol my bad
Great news on votto if true
Lol it's cool. It made me laugh.
And fuck the Indians.
chicago510
Posts: 5,728
Apr 2, 2012 7:03pm
10/$225 mil for Votto?! Wow color me surprised they got that done. Momentum of a trade obviously faded lol?
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Apr 2, 2012 8:42pm
That is a massive deal for Votto. No home town discount at all, as the Reds paid full market price and more.
While he is a great player, I don't think he is ever going to be more than a 30/100 guy on average (some years better than others) and that is just a lot of money for a guy who isn't a 40/130 guy like a Pujols/Arod/Fielder were in their monster years.
This is the 4th largest deal in MLB history, with only Arod/Pujols ever getting more (A-rod twice).
I applaud the Reds for having a brass pair like that to pay the guy, but I just think he could have been had for about $30-40 million less since so many teams have already tied up their first baseman for similar deals. Outside of the Cubs, I am not sure who else would have been able to pay him for than 160-170 million since the big markets were all set for the next decade at the position.
While he is a great player, I don't think he is ever going to be more than a 30/100 guy on average (some years better than others) and that is just a lot of money for a guy who isn't a 40/130 guy like a Pujols/Arod/Fielder were in their monster years.
This is the 4th largest deal in MLB history, with only Arod/Pujols ever getting more (A-rod twice).
I applaud the Reds for having a brass pair like that to pay the guy, but I just think he could have been had for about $30-40 million less since so many teams have already tied up their first baseman for similar deals. Outside of the Cubs, I am not sure who else would have been able to pay him for than 160-170 million since the big markets were all set for the next decade at the position.
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dave
Posts: 4,558
Apr 2, 2012 8:55pm
Holy shit!
Lets hope this one turns out better than the Griffey deal. I really hope they get off to a fast start and the fans fill up the stadium by late May. Then maybe they can resign BP.
Lets hope this one turns out better than the Griffey deal. I really hope they get off to a fast start and the fans fill up the stadium by late May. Then maybe they can resign BP.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Apr 2, 2012 9:40pm
I don't worry about Votto's career taking the Griffey path. Griffey's knees were pretty much shot after a decade of playing on the turf in Seattle and he also wasn't big on conditioning. Votto is playing at a low impact position, has the body type to sustain a long career, and has an unbelievable work ethic.dave;1134794 wrote:Holy shit!
Lets hope this one turns out better than the Griffey deal. I really hope they get off to a fast start and the fans fill up the stadium by late May. Then maybe they can resign BP.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Apr 2, 2012 9:41pm
Toronto would've thrown a blank cheque at him.IggyPride00;1134785 wrote:That is a massive deal for Votto. No home town discount at all, as the Reds paid full market price and more.
While he is a great player, I don't think he is ever going to be more than a 30/100 guy on average (some years better than others) and that is just a lot of money for a guy who isn't a 40/130 guy like a Pujols/Arod/Fielder were in their monster years.
This is the 4th largest deal in MLB history, with only Arod/Pujols ever getting more (A-rod twice).
I applaud the Reds for having a brass pair like that to pay the guy, but I just think he could have been had for about $30-40 million less since so many teams have already tied up their first baseman for similar deals. Outside of the Cubs, I am not sure who else would have been able to pay him for than 160-170 million since the big markets were all set for the next decade at the position.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Apr 2, 2012 9:44pm
justincredible;1134867 wrote:Toronto would've thrown a blank cheque at him.
eh.
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Jawbreaker
Posts: 520
Apr 2, 2012 9:45pm
So would the Dodgers. He was going to get 200+ from someone.justincredible;1134867 wrote:Toronto would've thrown a blank cheque at him.
I would currently take Votto over Arod, Pujols, and Fielder and their respective current contracts. It was a move the Reds had to make.