centralbucksfan;1069470 wrote:Sorry, when ur team only scores 49pts, I don't care how you spin it, not impressive or huge. I watched the game today, Burke had a "nice" game. Not huge by any means.

LJ;1069476 wrote:Imo its time to start winning national titles, or at the very least consistent final four appearances.

Big Gain;1069489 wrote:I would think it's quite obvious Ohio State has a better chance of doing that than any other Big Ten team.

Big Gain;1069474 wrote:VERY simple answer to a VERY simple question. Matta has FOUR Big Ten Championships in his 8 years at Ohio State. NO OTHER Big Ten coach has more than 2 since Matta has been in the Big Ten. Very difficult to put down the coach that is twice as successful as all of the other Big Ten head coaches.

Big Gain;1069403 wrote:I bet not. Three top notch Point Guards in back to back classes on the same team could create issues. More than likely one would end up transferring anyway, not enough assists to go around. At the time Scott was offered he was much higher thought of than Burke.

SportsAndLady;1069492 wrote:So Ohio State judges its coaches on conference titles?

Man, Bill Self needs to coach at OSU, he'd get a 10 million dollar raise...considering he's got 7 conf. titles in a row

sportswizuhrd;1069152 wrote:says this guy about Loving...



I agree about Loving and Nigel. Not sure why so many of the recruiting services have Loving ahead of Nigel but Nigel brings more to the game than Loving, IMO. I would take Hayes ahead of Loving. I really like Donnal's game.

As far as your other players, is Cookie Monster(wtf?) ahead of Vito Brown(I don't know his class, I believe UM is looking at him too) or Getty's? I think so but haven't seen much of Brown and when I did he seemed disinterested. Also, Getty's is just big(reminds me of Storm Stanley).

namod65;1069173 wrote:Because the program was in the dumps before he was hired, and he instantly turned it into an elite program. He has proven to be one of the best recruiters out there. He knows what he is doing. I'm not going to question him because I remember how it was before he was the coach.

I still remember a thread on the old site where everyone was talking about the state championship game Northland vs. Princeton. It was almost entirely guys who had not watched any HS basketball all year, but went to the championship game and thought it made them experts on who were the best prospects. This was before Weatherspoon was offered by Matta. Sully was basically double and triple teamed the whole game and JD went off for like 30 or something with a bunch of highlight dunks. EVERYONE, almost every poster in the thread was bashing and questioning Matta. They were so sure that he made the wrong choice and should have offered JD INSTEAD of Sully. I laughed at them back then and I'm still laughing about it now.

vball10set;1069244 wrote:http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?9-Boys-Basketball

Big Gain;1069474 wrote:VERY simple answer to a VERY simple question. Matta has FOUR Big Ten Championships in his 8 years at Ohio State. NO OTHER Big Ten coach has more than 2 since Matta has been in the Big Ten. Very difficult to put down the coach that is twice as successful as all of the other Big Ten head coaches.

centralbucksfan;1069271 wrote:Huge factor? How so? His points were very spread out. Only had 2 at half. Got a couple buckets late when game was in hand. On top of that, Craft forced him into 5 turnovers. 5 asst. 5 turnovers is not a stat line you want from PG position. Again, he had a nice game and I was impressed. But he never got on a roll or took over game. So I wouldn't call that a huge factor. Hardaway was the player that kept them in game for a while.

SportsAndLady;1069502 wrote:Late in the game? He didn't score in the last 5 minutes of the game, I believe. I remember hearing he had 13 points w/ about 5 min left and thinking he'd end up with ~17 points or so w/ garbage time points.

I agree he wasn't a "huge factor" (how can you be a huge factor when your team loses anyways lol), but the guy had a very good game, which I realize you said this already. He had a better game than Craft though, which is my point. Craft didn't have a bad game or anything, actually had a pretty good game. But it's clear to me that Matta regrets not offering Burke. Kids a ****in stud.

LJ;1069497 wrote:Maybe in Matta's first few years. Its time for FFs and NCs

centralbucksfan;1069515 wrote:Better game? U fucking kidding me? Did you even watch? Craft forced him into a number of turnovers(5 total). That is A LOT for a PG.
Craft - 3/4 - 7pts
Burke - 5-11 - 13pts
Craft - 4 asst.
Burke - 5 asst.
Craft - 2 turnovers
Burke - 5 turnovers

On top of that, Craft totally controlled the tempo of this game. He directed HIS team offensively, and again disrupted on defense. I believe he picked Burke at least twice defensively.
Yes, Burke played a "nice" game. But OVERALL, both ends of the floor, Craft had the better game.

Don't let your OSU HATE blind ur judgement. Wow

Laley23;1069499 wrote:If you can make your own judgement on said player or situation or whatever do so. If its the same as Matta at least you brought your own thoughts to he table and didn't resort to the "I'll trust the coach who has 57777 big ten titles over a random guy on the Internet" commets

LJ;1069491 wrote:Thats why MSU has three final fours in the time that Matta has one at OSU?

Terry_Tate;1069633 wrote:I totally agree. I remember an argument last year or the year before between OSU fans and that argument is just awful. I like Matta a lot obviously, but that doesn't mean I think every move he makes is the right one.

Midstate01;1069709 wrote:True. But even coach k makes decisions people(fans) question.

Terry_Tate;1069748 wrote:Yep. Even the Duke fans on here criticize some things Coach K does. You don't hear them saying "Well, he has X championships and Y Final Fours so he gets a pass" in his defense.

vball10set;1069757 wrote:It's easy to coach from your living room or a barstool, ain't it?

Whoever was in charge of the arena announcer-led "O-H", "I-O" chant during a referee review in yesterday's game should be fired... and I mean everybody.

SportsAndLady;1069502 wrote:Late in the game? He didn't score in the last 5 minutes of the game, I believe. I remember hearing he had 13 points w/ about 5 min left and thinking he'd end up with ~17 points or so w/ garbage time points.

I agree he wasn't a "huge factor" (how can you be a huge factor when your team loses anyways lol), but the guy had a very good game, which I realize you said this already. He had a better game than Craft though, which is my point. Craft didn't have a bad game or anything, actually had a pretty good game. But it's clear to me that Matta regrets not offering Burke. Kids a fuckin stud.