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Feb 7, 2013 2:05pm
Raw Dawgin' it;1383223 wrote:It's right up there with this KO

This one is better than Uriah's. Why? Because this one was FULL extension. Uriah's, he had his knee bent/cocked. Regardless, both were epic.
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Feb 7, 2013 2:27pm
Scarlet_Buckeye;1384587 wrote:This one is better than Uriah's. Why? Because this one was FULL extension. Uriah's, he had his knee bent/cocked. Regardless, both were epic.
I think this one was flashier but Uriah's just looked more brutal. Honestly it's like 1a and 1b, both awesome KOs.
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Feb 7, 2013 6:04pm
Both top 5 ko I have seen in MMA
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Feb 8, 2013 8:21am
Ben Fowlkes putting Vitor on blast.
When screening therapeutic-use-exemption applicants, most state athletic commissions ask if they've ever tested positive for any banned substances. Nevada includes that question as part of its criteria, but, according to NSAC Executive Director Keith Kizer, answering yes does not necessarily disqualify an applicant. As Kizer told me via email this week, "The burden on the applicant would be even higher," but that application could possibly still be approved.


This is where we get into a major problem with the whole testosterone-replacement therapy issue. Vitor Belfort is a great example. We know he's tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs in the past. We also know that abusing certain performance-enhancing drugs can damage a person's endocrine system. So even if we accept Belfort's claim that now, as a 35-year-old man, he does suffer from abnormally low testosterone levels, how do we know he didn't do it to himself? And if he did do it to himself, why should we give him permission to inject testosterone now to erase the consequences of his own decisions? How is that fair to other fighters who have never used PEDs?


That's a question that's not being adequately addressed right now. When we're talking about whether to allow professional fighters to inject themselves with steroids – and please, before you try to argue that synthetic testosterone isn't a steroid, go look at the World Anti-Doping Agency's list of prohibited substances, right there under part B of "Anabolic Androgenic Steroids" – the cause has to matter. We all saw Belfort when he was in his early 20s. No way that was a guy who suffered from naturally occurring hypogonadism. It would take a damn miracle for a man with abnormally low testosterone to get that big and strong, not to mention compete at that level as a professional athlete. So if we accept that he didn't have the condition then, but does have it now, what caused it? Age? His lifestyle? Past drug use? Years of weight-cutting and hard training and sustaining blows to the head? I don't see why any of those potential causes should be reason enough to allow him to fight other men for a living while under the influence of synthetic testosterone.


Getting too old to compete clean? Retire. Taken too many hits to the head? Retire yesterday, and go see a doctor. Messed up your own hormone production with drug use? Either make do with what you got, or else retire and go give talks to high school athletes about why they shouldn't do what you did. All of those seem like better options for our sport and its fighters than sanctioned performance-enhancing drug use.
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Feb 8, 2013 9:39am
Raw Dawgin' it;1384995 wrote:Ben Fowlkes putting Vitor on blast.
The blame shouldn't lie with the athletes, but rather with the commissions. They are the ones who are making TRT legal, of course the athletes are going to use it to get an advantage.
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Feb 8, 2013 10:37am
robj55;1385037 wrote:The blame shouldn't lie with the athletes, but rather with the commissions. They are the ones who are making TRT legal, of course the athletes are going to use it to get an advantage.
Yeah - but Vitor gets on his high horse about rematches and talks a ton of shit, yet he's on drugs. I thought Overeem looked softer and slower than he did against Brock and it was probably from not taking PEDs. He was gassed in the 3rd and had barely done anything.
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Feb 8, 2013 11:59am
Raw Dawgin' it;1385063 wrote:Yeah - but Vitor gets on his high horse about rematches and talks a ton of ****, yet he's on drugs. I thought Overeem looked softer and slower than he did against Brock and it was probably from not taking PEDs. He was gassed in the 3rd and had barely done anything.
They are on drugs but their levels aren't higher than a normal persons. The main advantage you would get is that you can train harder, longer, and recover quicker. That's the main advantage and I completely disagree with that. The commissions have to take a serious look at it but what is it going to take for them to change, they seem extremely stubborn from everything I have read/seen.
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Feb 8, 2013 3:45pm
Their levels are higher then a normal persons. They are allowed to test either 5 or 6 times that of a normal person and not be flagged as elevated. 99.9% of people test within a 2-1 ratio and they are allowing a 5-1 ratio. They also can be way above that anytime their not gonna be tested and a person can go form like 14-1 1-1 within a day. I know when one fighter was tested he was like 11-1. It needs to be removed from the sport completely.
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Feb 8, 2013 3:47pm
Looked it up Nevada allows 6-1 ratio so don't tell me that their level isn't higher then a normal person.
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Feb 8, 2013 5:42pm
sportchampps;1385423 wrote:Looked it up Nevada allows 6-1 ratio so don't tell me that their level isn't higher then a normal person.
I thought their levels had to be within a certain range? I guess I was assuming that range would be of a normal, average male who competes.
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Feb 9, 2013 12:03am
A normal 50 year old man who needs TRT is prescribed about 50mg a month. For a UFC fighted to test below 6-1 they can take almost 1600mg a month and somehow guys are stil having outrageous numbers like 11-1 in Sonnens case meaning their just abusing the stuff
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Feb 9, 2013 12:34am
This is old stuff, but I finally got to see Warrior...why in the world did I wait so long?!
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Feb 11, 2013 7:36am
I can't stand this guy, between the soul patch and horrible portrait tattoos, but he's damn entertaining in his fights. Really looking forward to the Aldo fight, I would not be shocked if he beat him. Have frankie fight on the same card to set up a title shot if Pettis wins.

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Feb 11, 2013 9:13am
OSH;1385602 wrote:This is old stuff, but I finally got to see Warrior...why in the world did I wait so long?!
No idea but that movie is excellent, MMA fan or not.
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Feb 12, 2013 2:46pm
robj55;1386673 wrote:No idea but that movie is excellent, MMA fan or not.
I always wanted to see it, but I never did. I downloaded the Epix app on my xbox...and it was the first movie previewed on there. Watched it free. Definitely will be buying it.
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Feb 13, 2013 7:21am
Cain vs Bigfoot 2 (yawn) but also, JDS vs The Reem! Can't wait for that one. UFC 160
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Feb 13, 2013 10:38am
Yeah Cain vs Bigfoot just seems like well we don't got anyone else who could fight him
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Feb 16, 2013 1:46pm
UFC on Fuel TV 7 in England starts in an hour, great free card with a title fight!
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Feb 17, 2013 6:36pm
I just read where Nick Diaz has skipped 3 taping sessions for the countdown show for the ppv.
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Feb 17, 2013 8:39pm
bigdaddy2003;1391025 wrote:I just read where Nick Diaz has skipped 3 taping sessions for the countdown show for the ppv.
Nick posted on twitter that this was bullshit. Supposedly it was done last week.
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Feb 17, 2013 8:48pm
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Feb 18, 2013 10:12pm
Good deal for Johnny because if he wins this fight there virtually no way he won't get the next shot unless there really is a super fight.
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Feb 19, 2013 10:36am
Marquardt is in against Ellenberger now
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Feb 19, 2013 1:28pm
Love those fights maybe even more than the original match ups. I think this is the 4th or 5th fight Rory has pulled out of, not a good sign.