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Jan 30, 2012 2:46pm
Hb31187;1070213 wrote:I think Jones is gonna stomp a mudhole in Evans ass anyways.

And If Sonnen has trouble with Bisping's striking...Silva is gonna tattoo him
He didn't the first time.

Also, i'm excited for the Rashad v. Jones fight, might be the first time i don't care who gets knocked out since i'm not a fan of either guy.
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Jan 30, 2012 2:53pm
Jones opens up at +600 against Rashad, wow
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Jan 30, 2012 2:54pm
Hb31187;1070213 wrote:I think Jones is gonna stomp a mudhole in Evans ass anyways.

And If Sonnen has trouble with Bisping's striking...Silva is gonna tattoo him
Hard to knock someone out from your back, Anderson has to improve his TDD and wrestling, or it will be another long night.
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jmog
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Jan 30, 2012 3:04pm
So far Fox might be rethinking this idea. The first free one on Fox lasted about 30 s and they showed no other fights. This one had 3 fights that all 3 were boring as snot.

If it was possible, I had the Sonnen/Bisping fight a draw, had them both winning a round and the one round a toss up. Personally I can't stand Bisping so I was happy about the outcome, but Sonnen looked terrible compared to how he has looked in the past.

I was hoping Phil Davis would look better, but it looks like Rashad is back to the boring fighter that came off TUF.

Maia really disappointed me, even when it hit the ground he did not show his BJJ prowress like in his first 8 or so fights in the UFC.

I would have been kind of upset if I had paid PPV $$ for that set of fights.
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Jan 30, 2012 3:09pm
jmog;1070263 wrote:So far Fox might be rethinking this idea. The first free one on Fox lasted about 30 s and they showed no other fights. This one had 3 fights that all 3 were boring as snot.

If it was possible, I had the Sonnen/Bisping fight a draw, had them both winning a round and the one round a toss up. Personally I can't stand Bisping so I was happy about the outcome, but Sonnen looked terrible compared to how he has looked in the past.

I was hoping Phil Davis would look better, but it looks like Rashad is back to the boring fighter that came off TUF.

Maia really disappointed me, even when it hit the ground he did not show his BJJ prowress like in his first 8 or so fights in the UFC.

I would have been kind of upset if I had paid PPV $$ for that set of fights.
They aren't going to second guess it, they are in this for the long run to grow this sport. They signed a 7 year deal. Not every fight is going to be great but the UFC needs to put on better match ups that are going to draw the casual fans in. This card was the first card in almost a year that was underwhelming, I honestly can't remember a PPV within the last 6-8 months that hasn't been great. They have been on a great run recently but they have to analyze the potential of these match ups. To us,the hardcore fans, we enjoy the whole set skills of MMA, grappling included. The casual fan viewing for the first time wants to see something exciting, more so in the stand up. Then as they become interested they can learn the ground game and positioning and battling for submissions and things of that nature. Nick Diaz vs Carlos Condit should have been the fight they put on FOX.
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jmog
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Jan 30, 2012 3:51pm
robj55;1070272 wrote:They aren't going to second guess it, they are in this for the long run to grow this sport. They signed a 7 year deal. Not every fight is going to be great but the UFC needs to put on better match ups that are going to draw the casual fans in. This card was the first card in almost a year that was underwhelming, I honestly can't remember a PPV within the last 6-8 months that hasn't been great. They have been on a great run recently but they have to analyze the potential of these match ups. To us,the hardcore fans, we enjoy the whole set skills of MMA, grappling included. The casual fan viewing for the first time wants to see something exciting, more so in the stand up. Then as they become interested they can learn the ground game and positioning and battling for submissions and things of that nature. Nick Diaz vs Carlos Condit should have been the fight they put on FOX.
I 100% agree with you, my background/interest in in grappling. I have studied wrestling, BJJ, and Judo and that's the part of the sport I love. I was being semi-sarcastic about the Fox thing since I knew they inked a 7 year deal.

I was just saying since a huge portion of the viewers on the network cards are casual fans last night had to go over like a lead balloon.
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Jan 30, 2012 4:26pm
jmog;1070350 wrote:I 100% agree with you, my background/interest in in grappling. I have studied wrestling, BJJ, and Judo and that's the part of the sport I love. I was being semi-sarcastic about the Fox thing since I knew they inked a 7 year deal.

I was just saying since a huge portion of the viewers on the network cards are casual fans last night had to go over like a lead balloon.
i don't think anyone would've predicted these outcomes. Also, if Munoz doesn't get hurt i bet Bisping finishes Maia and i think the Munoz would've TKO'd sonnen (just personal opinion). So the injury really threw off the match ups.
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Jan 30, 2012 9:47pm
the ratings were great infact they won their timeslot so id say their pretty happy with the deal.

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/UFC-on-Fox-2-Tops-Networks-Recent-Primetime-Ratings-39725
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Jan 31, 2012 8:26am
Thoughts:
  • The main card for UFC on Fox: Evans vs. Davis was virtually unbearable to watch
    • The Middleweight bout: Demian Maia vs. Chris Weidman was quite possibly one of the worst fights I have ever seen
    • Sonnen vs. Bisping
      • I was slightly disappointed with Chael Sonnen
      • I thought Bisping looked pretty damn good (much better than I was giving him credit for going into the fight)
      • I actually had Bisping winning the bout (Sonnen clearly won the 3rd, but I think you could make an argument that Bisping won rounds 1 & 2
      • Sonnen's post-but interview was straight WWE The Rock. It was AWESOME.
    • I was extremely disappointed in the Light Heavyweight bout: Rashad Evans vs. Phil Davis
      • Rashad lost some esteem IMO because he was unable to take out Davis who looked completely over matched
      • Davis looks like he can be a star, but he just seems to lack those world-class fighting skills and cutthroat mentality
  • Very glad this was free because it was a card I probably would have bought and it ended up being a huge snooze-fest.
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Jan 31, 2012 8:32am
Scarlet_Buckeye;1070988 wrote:Thoughts:
  • The main card for UFC on Fox: Evans vs. Davis was virtually unbearable to watch
    • The Middleweight bout: Demian Maia vs. Chris Weidman was quite possibly one of the worst fights I have ever seen
    • Sonnen vs. Bisping
      • I was slightly disappointed with Chael Sonnen
      • I thought Bisping looked pretty damn good (much better than I was giving him credit for going into the fight)
      • I actually had Bisping winning the bout (Sonnen clearly won the 3rd, but I think you could make an argument that Bisping won rounds 1 & 2
      • Sonnen's post-but interview was straight WWE The Rock. It was AWESOME.
    • I was extremely disappointed in the Light Heavyweight bout: Rashad Evans vs. Phil Davis
      • Rashad lost some esteem IMO because he was unable to take out Davis who looked completely over matched
      • Davis looks like he can be a star, but he just seems to lack those world-class fighting skills and cutthroat mentality
  • Very glad this was free because it was a card I probably would have bought and it ended up being a huge snooze-fest.
Edit: Totally read that wrong my fault, lolfail on me.
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jmog
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Jan 31, 2012 8:55am
Raw Dawgin' it;1070992 wrote:lol cause getting a guy in a crucifix means you're totally over matched, smh. He walked through Davis and barley broke a sweat. Evans knew a win meant a title shot and there was no way he was going to risk not getting his shot at Jones again. But man, to think he looked over matched, what the hell were you watching? ha
I'm pretty sure he said that Davis looked overmatched, not Evans.
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Jan 31, 2012 9:00am
jmog;1071009 wrote:I'm pretty sure he said that Davis looked overmatched, not Evans.
thanks, totally read it wrong, edited my post. Reps.
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Jan 31, 2012 10:57am
Raw Dawgin' it;1071015 wrote:thanks, totally read it wrong, edited my post. Reps.
I think you should have to rep my post for your inability to read. :-P
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Jan 31, 2012 1:28pm
robj55;1070234 wrote:Jones opens up at +600 against Rashad, wow
That doesn't make sense, it should be -600 if Jones is the favorite.
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Jan 31, 2012 2:03pm
That's what I meant lol
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Jan 31, 2012 2:57pm
Upcoming cards with big fights listed:

UFC 143 - February 4th on PPV from Las Vegas, Nevada
Carlos Condit vs. Nick Diaz for Interim Welterweight Title
Roy Nelson vs. Fabricio Werdum
Josh Koscheck vs. Mike Pierce

UFC on FUEL TV 1: February 15th on Fuel TV from Omaha, Nebraska
Diego Sanchez vs. Jake Ellenberger
Stefan Struve vs. Dave Herman

UFC 144 - February 25th on PPV from Saitama, Japan
Frank Edgar (c) vs. Ben Henderson for Lightweight Title
Quinton Jackson vs. Ryan Bader
Cheick Kongo vs. Mark Hunt
Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Jake Shields
Anthony Pettis vs. Joe Lauzon
Yushin Okami vs. Tim Boetsch

UFC on FX 2 - March 3rd on FX from Sydney, Australia
Thiago Alves vs. Martin Kampmann
Joseph Benavidez vs. Yasuhiro Urushitani
Demetrious Johnson vs. Ian McCall

UFC on FUEL TV 2 - April 14th on FUEL TV from Stockholm, Sweden
Antonio Rogerio Nogueira vs. Alexander Gustafsson
Brian Stann vs. Alessio Sakara
Deigo Nunes vs. Dennis Siver

UFC 145 - April 21st on PPV from Atlanta, Georgia
Jon Jones (c) vs. Rashad Evans for Light Heavyweight Title
Brendan Schaub vs. Ben Rothwell
Rory McDonald vs. Che Miles

UFC on FOX 3 - May 5th on FOX from East Rutherford, New Jersey
Nate Diaz vs. Jim Miller

UFC on FX 3 - May 15th on FOX from Fairfax, Virginia
Jason MacDonald vs. Tom Lawlor
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Jan 31, 2012 11:28pm
Scarlet_Buckeye;1070988 wrote:Thoughts:
  • The main card for UFC on Fox: Evans vs. Davis was virtually unbearable to watch
    • The Middleweight bout: Demian Maia vs. Chris Weidman was quite possibly one of the worst fights I have ever seen
    • Sonnen vs. Bisping
      • I was slightly disappointed with Chael Sonnen
      • I thought Bisping looked pretty damn good (much better than I was giving him credit for going into the fight)
      • I actually had Bisping winning the bout (Sonnen clearly won the 3rd, but I think you could make an argument that Bisping won rounds 1 & 2
      • Sonnen's post-but interview was straight WWE The Rock. It was AWESOME.
    • I was extremely disappointed in the Light Heavyweight bout: Rashad Evans vs. Phil Davis
      • Rashad lost some esteem IMO because he was unable to take out Davis who looked completely over matched
      • Davis looks like he can be a star, but he just seems to lack those world-class fighting skills and cutthroat mentality
  • Very glad this was free because it was a card I probably would have bought and it ended up being a huge snooze-fest.
I didn't think it was that bad considering Weidman only had 11 days to game plan, get as fit as possible, and cut weight.
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Feb 1, 2012 11:58am
Who does everyone have winning this weekend?
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Feb 1, 2012 12:01pm
Diaz
Werdum
Kos
In the 3 main fights
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Feb 1, 2012 12:20pm
Im sure Kos will put on another show of absolutely no entertainment
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Feb 1, 2012 1:31pm
Diaz by late TKO in a fight of the year/decade candidate
Roy Nelson by KO
Koscheck by TKO
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Feb 1, 2012 1:32pm
Hb31187;1072166 wrote:Im sure Kos will put on another show of absolutely no entertainment
The only fight I've seen of his that was boring was the Daley fight, normally he puts on a great show. Plus he's the guy everyone hates and wants to see get his ass kicked which is entertaining in itself lol.
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Feb 1, 2012 2:34pm
Hb31187;1072166 wrote:Im sure Kos will put on another show of absolutely no entertainment
What? Five of his last seven fights have ended in finishes.
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Zoltan
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Feb 1, 2012 2:36pm
I love this picture of Diaz as a kid..
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jmog
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Feb 1, 2012 2:46pm
I can't stand Kos but he hasn't been a boring fighter. Evans, Fitch, etc can be called boring fighters, but not typically Koscheck.

I think he is a huge bag of douche, but not a boring fighter.