
Raw Dawgin' it
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Sep 14, 2011 9:07am
I'd like to see The Reem win just to have some new blood in the mix.

Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Sep 14, 2011 9:18am
Diaz Speaks. This article is great, i hope Diaz beats Penn and gets another shot at GSP just for the pre fight build up
http://mmajunkie.com/news/25223/diaz-shocked-st-pierre-didnt-try-to-keep-ufc-137-fight-has-choice-words-for-champ.mma
http://mmajunkie.com/news/25223/diaz-shocked-st-pierre-didnt-try-to-keep-ufc-137-fight-has-choice-words-for-champ.mma
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I Wear Pants
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Sep 14, 2011 9:29am
I don't. Dude sounds like a fucking moron.

Raw Dawgin' it
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Sep 14, 2011 9:39am
Moron or not he's entertaining. You honestly don't want to see him get beat up? I hope he wins, i'm tired of seeing the same guys all the timeI Wear Pants;895641 wrote:I don't. Dude sounds like a fucking moron.

bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Sep 14, 2011 11:59am
I think BJ beats him and thus makes the fight with GSP less interesting. Pretty sad.
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jmog
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Sep 14, 2011 1:25pm
I think BJ is actually a tougher matchup for Diaz.
BJ completely cancels out Diaz's BJJ and while Diaz has faster hands, BJ has just as good boxing and more power.
Diaz doesn't have the boxing advantage over BJ like he did over GSP and he doesn't have the submission off his back advantage over BJ like he did GSP.
BJ completely cancels out Diaz's BJJ and while Diaz has faster hands, BJ has just as good boxing and more power.
Diaz doesn't have the boxing advantage over BJ like he did over GSP and he doesn't have the submission off his back advantage over BJ like he did GSP.

NWIndianNation01
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Sep 14, 2011 1:28pm
I will still take Diaz.:thumbup:

robj55
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Sep 14, 2011 1:44pm
"I'm not like these bitches. I'm not going to hold B.J. Penn down the whole time like these guys have done. They held B.J. down because they're bigger than him and stronger than him. I'm not going to do that. I'm not a little bitch to try and hold somebody down. I'm going to go out there and fight this tricky mother [expletive], and it could mean a lot of problems for me. It would have been a lot of problems for them, too, if they had fought him like I fight. They would have lost that fight." -Nick Diaz
Completely nailed it, there are people who come to fight and then there are people who come to win by exploiting the rules and avoiding the fight.
Completely nailed it, there are people who come to fight and then there are people who come to win by exploiting the rules and avoiding the fight.

robj55
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Sep 14, 2011 1:45pm
This fight will most likely take place all on the feet unless someone gets hurt and dropped. Nick will need to use his length and size advantage.jmog;895889 wrote:I think BJ is actually a tougher matchup for Diaz.
BJ completely cancels out Diaz's BJJ and while Diaz has faster hands, BJ has just as good boxing and more power.
Diaz doesn't have the boxing advantage over BJ like he did over GSP and he doesn't have the submission off his back advantage over BJ like he did GSP.
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jmog
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Sep 14, 2011 4:44pm
This is true, no way Diaz can take BJ down, and I'm not sure BJ will try a TD unless he has Diaz hurt.robj55;895930 wrote:This fight will most likely take place all on the feet unless someone gets hurt and dropped. Nick will need to use his length and size advantage.
BJ is most definitely better on top with his BJJ game and Diaz is better from bottom with his submission game, so that is the part of the matchup I want to see, BJ on top and Diaz on bottom, see who wins that battle.
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sportchampps
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Sep 14, 2011 5:46pm
I think Diaz has more power then BJ on the feet

gerb131
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Sep 14, 2011 6:15pm
Glad to see Diaz come out a little bit. Dude is entertainment at his finest. Be looking forward to Oct 29

robj55
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Sep 14, 2011 6:23pm
I agree, would love to see them roll but I don't see much of it, this will be a high paced exciting fight however.jmog;896158 wrote:This is true, no way Diaz can take BJ down, and I'm not sure BJ will try a TD unless he has Diaz hurt.
BJ is most definitely better on top with his BJJ game and Diaz is better from bottom with his submission game, so that is the part of the matchup I want to see, BJ on top and Diaz on bottom, see who wins that battle.
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jmog
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Sep 14, 2011 6:43pm
Diaz's hands are faster, but BJ has more power in his hands than Diaz.sportchampps;896198 wrote:I think Diaz has more power then BJ on the feet

robj55
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Sep 14, 2011 9:02pm
Yeah BJ has more one punch knockout power. Diaz throws a lot of 1/2 and 3/4 power punches to set up huge hooks to the head and body, more of a volume puncher and very accurate.jmog;896243 wrote:Diaz's hands are faster, but BJ has more power in his hands than Diaz.

End of Line
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Sep 14, 2011 10:19pm
Finally got my UFC 116 poster up lol.

Now all I need is UFC 100 and UFC 141

Now all I need is UFC 100 and UFC 141
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sportchampps
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Sep 14, 2011 10:22pm
Penn has 7 ko wins out of 16 and Diaz has 13 out of his 25 bj has six by submission and diaz has 8. Bj has fought the better fighters but pretty even overall
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I Wear Pants
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Sep 14, 2011 10:43pm
BJ has by far fought the better fighters.

End of Line
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Sep 14, 2011 10:59pm
W/o a doubt.I Wear Pants;896434 wrote:BJ has by far fought the better fighters.
BJ has fought:
-Fitch
-Hughes x3 (2-1)
-Edgar x2 (0-2)
-Sanchez
-Florian
-GSP x2 (0-2)
-Sherk
-Stevenson
-Pulver x2 (1-1)
-Renzo Gracie
-MACHIDA
-Gomi
-Serra
-Uno x2 (1-0-1)
Nick Diaz has not faced the same quality fighters:
-Daley
-Santos
-Noons (1-1)
-Sakurai
-Zaromskis
-Smith
-Shamrock
-Gomi (NC)
-Tibau
-Neer
-Sherk (UFC/loss)
-Riggs (UFC/loss)
-Sanchez (UFC/loss)
-Pariysan (UFC/loss)
-Lawler

bigdaddy2003
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Sep 14, 2011 11:26pm
Like I said I'm picking BJ thus taking the excitement out of the GSP fight.
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I Wear Pants
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Sep 14, 2011 11:31pm
So using mmath they have two common opponents: Sherk and Sanchez.
Diaz lost to both and BJ destroyed both.
Diaz lost to both and BJ destroyed both.
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Sep 15, 2011 2:10am
Yeah I dont see this ending well for Diaz but Penn hasnt looked like the Penn of old. Both of these guys can be head cases who knows who will show up
BTW i didnt mean the quality of the fighters were close i meant their records as far as kos and submissions were pretty close
BTW i didnt mean the quality of the fighters were close i meant their records as far as kos and submissions were pretty close
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jmog
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Sep 15, 2011 8:58am
Don't say that to the Diaz nut huggers on here who truly believe he would have destroyed GSP.I Wear Pants;896492 wrote:So using mmath they have two common opponents: Sherk and Sanchez.
Diaz lost to both and BJ destroyed both.
I love watching Diaz, he is an exciting fighter, but until he proves it against top tier opponents, he is not on GSP's level, or even BJP.

Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Sep 16, 2011 8:06am
Woo, going to the fights tomorrow night, can't wait. Has anyone here been to a UFC event before? What's it like in person?

bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Sep 16, 2011 10:16am
I'm not a Diaz nut hugger by any means but I had a strange feeling he would beat GSP. We will probably never find out now though.