
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Oct 25, 2010 6:23pm
Really, faked and scripted soap opera vs real sport????? Help me understand that.Blanket;532355 wrote:The same reason people watch Boxing and UFC.

j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
Oct 25, 2010 9:25pm
saw where dana said basically "good fucking luck" at brock trying to get out of his contract to fight at WM 27.
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Oct 26, 2010 1:02am
I didnt really see anything that made me think Brock was mad and taker was saying it was personal cus he didnt want to say yeah im asking him if he wants to go at wrestlemania but thats just my take Ive always heard Brock say good things about the undertaker and that he was one of the few guys he still talks to on a regular basisregardless. i wonder why the animosity (at least how i pervcieved it) from brock towards the undertaker as he walked by.
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Oct 26, 2010 1:04am
Brock vs Gonzaga would suck IMO
Rothwell is over rated
Mir vs Brock 3 would draw interest but i think would go the same way as the second fight
How about Kongo so Kongo wont think he is actually good anymore after brock smashes him
Rothwell is over rated
Mir vs Brock 3 would draw interest but i think would go the same way as the second fight
How about Kongo so Kongo wont think he is actually good anymore after brock smashes him

End of Line
Posts: 6,867
Oct 26, 2010 3:07am
j_crazy;532571 wrote:saw where dana said basically "good fucking luck" at brock trying to get out of his contract to fight at WM 27.
Read that on mixedmartialarts.com, as it would be a breach of contract.

End of Line
Posts: 6,867
Oct 26, 2010 3:07am
sportchampps;533013 wrote:Brock vs Gonzaga would suck IMO
Rothwell is over rated
Mir vs Brock 3 would draw interest but i think would go the same way as the second fight
How about Kongo so Kongo wont think he is actually good anymore after brock smashes him
I wouldn't mind seeing that.

bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Oct 26, 2010 9:52am
I would love to see Brock smash Kongo.

Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Oct 26, 2010 10:17am
IMO Kongo doesn't deserve a fight against a top ranked fighter!
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Blanket
Posts: 369
Oct 26, 2010 11:42am
Because they enjoy watching the product just like you and other UFC/MMA fans enjoy watching that.Fab1b;532361 wrote:Really, faked and scripted soap opera vs real sport????? Help me understand that.
99% of the people know what is going on with the wrestling product but they still enjoy watching it.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Oct 26, 2010 11:57am
But they aren't similar. Unless you mean to tell me that Transformers is just like MMA because there is an audience that likes to watch that too.
I'm fine with people watching and enjoying WWE/etc. But that sort of thing has and should not have any relationship with a real sporting event.
I'm fine with people watching and enjoying WWE/etc. But that sort of thing has and should not have any relationship with a real sporting event.
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Blanket
Posts: 369
Oct 26, 2010 11:59am
I never said it should have a place with a real sports event.
The only comparison I am making is that both groups really like what they are watching and that is why they draw what they do.
The only comparison I am making is that both groups really like what they are watching and that is why they draw what they do.

Scarlet_Buckeye
Posts: 5,264
Oct 26, 2010 12:06pm
I Wear Pants;531591 wrote:Mir or Nelson would get destroyed. Need to find a better match up.
The problem is... who else is out there? And you can say those guys would get destroyed, but anything can happen. That's why you have the fight.

End of Line
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Oct 26, 2010 1:51pm
Carwin pulled out of his fight with Nelson.
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Blanket
Posts: 369
Oct 26, 2010 2:15pm
When is the next big card that would be worth going out to watch?

bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Oct 26, 2010 2:20pm
Blanket;533483 wrote:When is the next big card that would be worth going out to watch?
November 20th.
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Oct 26, 2010 3:18pm
You are right Kongo doesnt deserve to be anywhere near a top fighter but, he runs his mouth so much thinking he is awesome that i would just like to see Lesner destroy him for my own personal pleasure lol

NWIndianNation01
Posts: 996
Oct 26, 2010 3:24pm
I also got the update about Carwin pulling out of the match against Big Country. Should be interesting who they fill this spot with. I'm mad though because I was really looking forward to watching Nelson get destroyed by Carwin. Too bad Brock won't be ready by then (or at least doubt he would be).
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Oct 26, 2010 6:30pm
It wasn't you but someone in the thread was suggesting a co-promotion as a good idea.Blanket;533266 wrote:I never said it should have a place with a real sports event.
The only comparison I am making is that both groups really like what they are watching and that is why they draw what they do.

Leonardo
Posts: 4,986
Oct 26, 2010 10:27pm
Upcoming cards with big fights listed:
WEC 52 - November 11th on Versus from Las Vegas, Nevada
Urijah Faber vs. Taekya Mizugaki
Josh Grispi vs. Erik Koch
Joseph Benavidez vs. Wagnney Fabiano
UFC 122 - November 13th on PPV/Spike TV from Oberhausen, Germany
Nate Marquardt vs. Yushin Okami
Jorge Rivera vs. Alessio Sakara
Dennis Siver vs. Andre Winner
Amir Sadollah vs. Peter Sobatta
Krzysztof Soszynski vs. Goran Reljic
UFC 123 - November 20th on PPV from Auburn Hills, Michigan
Rampage Jackson vs. Lyoto Machida
Matt Hughes vs. B.J. Penn III
Phil Davis vs. Tim Boetsch
George Sotiropoulos vs. Joe Lauzon
Aaron Simpson vs. Mark Munoz
Strikeforce: Henderson vs. Babalu - December 4th on Showtime from St. Louis, Missouri
Dan Henderson vs. Renato Sobral
Robbie Lawler vs. Matt Lindland
Hershel Walker vs. ???
Paul Daley vs. Scott Smith
Antonio Silva vs. Valentijn Overeem
The Ultimate Fighter 12 finale - December 4th on Spike TV from Las Vegas, Nevada
Lightweight Finalist #1 vs. Lightweight Finalist #2
Stephan Bonnar vs. Igor Pokrajac
Kendall Grove vs. Demian Maia
UFC 124 - December 11th on PPV from Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Georges St-Pierre (c) vs. Josh Koscheck II for Welterweight Title
Stefan Struve vs. Sean McCorkle
Joe Stevenson vs. Mac Danzig
Thiago Alves vs. John Howard
WEC 53 - December 16th on Versus from Glendale, Arizona
Ben Henderson (c) vs. Anthony Pettis for Lightweight Title
Dominick Cruz (c) vs. Scott Jorgensen for Bantamweight Title
Donald Cerrone vs. Chris Horodecki
UFC 125 - January 1st on PPV from Las Vegas, Nevada
Frankie Edgar (c) vs. Gray Maynard II for Lightweight Title
Jose Aldo (c) vs. ??? for Featherweight Title
Chris Leben vs. Brian Stann
Clay Guida vs. Takanori Gomi
Brandon Vera vs. Thiago Silva
Nate Diaz vs. Dong Hyun Kim
UFC 126 - February 5th on PPV from Las Vegas, Nevada
(c) Anderson Silva vs. Vitor Belfort for Middleweight Title
Forrest Griffin vs. Rich Franklin
Jon Jones vs. Ryan Bader
Kenny Florian vs. Evan Dunham
WEC 52 - November 11th on Versus from Las Vegas, Nevada
Urijah Faber vs. Taekya Mizugaki
Josh Grispi vs. Erik Koch
Joseph Benavidez vs. Wagnney Fabiano
UFC 122 - November 13th on PPV/Spike TV from Oberhausen, Germany
Nate Marquardt vs. Yushin Okami
Jorge Rivera vs. Alessio Sakara
Dennis Siver vs. Andre Winner
Amir Sadollah vs. Peter Sobatta
Krzysztof Soszynski vs. Goran Reljic
UFC 123 - November 20th on PPV from Auburn Hills, Michigan
Rampage Jackson vs. Lyoto Machida
Matt Hughes vs. B.J. Penn III
Phil Davis vs. Tim Boetsch
George Sotiropoulos vs. Joe Lauzon
Aaron Simpson vs. Mark Munoz
Strikeforce: Henderson vs. Babalu - December 4th on Showtime from St. Louis, Missouri
Dan Henderson vs. Renato Sobral
Robbie Lawler vs. Matt Lindland
Hershel Walker vs. ???
Paul Daley vs. Scott Smith
Antonio Silva vs. Valentijn Overeem
The Ultimate Fighter 12 finale - December 4th on Spike TV from Las Vegas, Nevada
Lightweight Finalist #1 vs. Lightweight Finalist #2
Stephan Bonnar vs. Igor Pokrajac
Kendall Grove vs. Demian Maia
UFC 124 - December 11th on PPV from Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Georges St-Pierre (c) vs. Josh Koscheck II for Welterweight Title
Stefan Struve vs. Sean McCorkle
Joe Stevenson vs. Mac Danzig
Thiago Alves vs. John Howard
WEC 53 - December 16th on Versus from Glendale, Arizona
Ben Henderson (c) vs. Anthony Pettis for Lightweight Title
Dominick Cruz (c) vs. Scott Jorgensen for Bantamweight Title
Donald Cerrone vs. Chris Horodecki
UFC 125 - January 1st on PPV from Las Vegas, Nevada
Frankie Edgar (c) vs. Gray Maynard II for Lightweight Title
Jose Aldo (c) vs. ??? for Featherweight Title
Chris Leben vs. Brian Stann
Clay Guida vs. Takanori Gomi
Brandon Vera vs. Thiago Silva
Nate Diaz vs. Dong Hyun Kim
UFC 126 - February 5th on PPV from Las Vegas, Nevada
(c) Anderson Silva vs. Vitor Belfort for Middleweight Title
Forrest Griffin vs. Rich Franklin
Jon Jones vs. Ryan Bader
Kenny Florian vs. Evan Dunham
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Oct 27, 2010 12:48am
126 is turning into a nice little card

End of Line
Posts: 6,867
Oct 27, 2010 2:20am
Lesnar has been suspended for 180 days.
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/275746/UFC-121-suspensions-Lesnar-out-for-six-months/
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/275746/UFC-121-suspensions-Lesnar-out-for-six-months/
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Oct 27, 2010 6:15am
The_Crosby_Show;534555 wrote:Lesnar has been suspended for 180 days.
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/275746/UFC-121-suspensions-Lesnar-out-for-six-months/
Those medical suspensions are all pretty common, I would be surprised if the couple 180 day ones really lasted that long. They will all see an eye doctor and get cleared earlier for contact training.
I do not expect, however, for Brock to be in the ring inside of 6 months, just that a doctor will clear him to train much earlier. I expect you'll see Brock back in the ring late spring/early summer 2011.

bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Oct 27, 2010 10:08am
The_Crosby_Show;534555 wrote:Lesnar has been suspended for 180 days.
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/275746/UFC-121-suspensions-Lesnar-out-for-six-months/
That blows. I was hoping to see him by Feb or March.

Leonardo
Posts: 4,986
Oct 27, 2010 11:55am
My boss and I were talking yesterday. Anyone else see Mir/Lesnar III around the same time as Velasquez/dos Santos (April/May), with the winners meeting late in 2011?

End of Line
Posts: 6,867
Oct 27, 2010 1:02pm
Leonardo;534779 wrote:My boss and I were talking yesterday. Anyone else see Mir/Lesnar III around the same time as Velasquez/dos Santos (April/May), with the winners meeting late in 2011?
I could actually see that happening.
If JDS and Lesnar wins, stylistically I would favor Lesnar in fight between those two.