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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Dec 13, 2009 2:57pm
that was a grear card. Maynard has 0 chance against BJ. Mir looked good. The first fight was really fun to watch.
bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Dec 13, 2009 3:02pm
Yeah, I was pleased with the card as well.
BuckeyeBlue
Posts: 561
Dec 13, 2009 3:03pm
BJ's natural ability is pretty much unmatched. As as been noted many times, this is a man who won a BJJ world championship in the black belt division after studying BJJ for just 3 years. BJ is an amazing fighter, and is definitely in the top 5 p4p. I personally would put him at number 4 right now (behind Anderson Silva, GSP, and Fedor in no particular order).
Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Dec 13, 2009 3:08pm
I wouldn't really say 0% chance, slim chance yes. But thats what's great about MMA, all it takes is one punch or one kick and it can be all over. Who really thought Sera had a chance against GSP?sportchampps wrote: that was a grear card. Maynard has 0 chance against BJ. Mir looked good. The first fight was really fun to watch.
Also, I love the guy but is Clay Guida a hemophiliac or what?!?! It seems like ever time he fights he ends up losing a few pints of blood!
BuckeyeBlue
Posts: 561
Dec 13, 2009 3:11pm
I would say Guida must have some pretty thin skin. I agree, it does seem like he gets cut badly every time he fights. But I'll be damned if his fights aren't some of the most entertaining in the UFC. His fight with Diego was AMAZING, as was his fight with Roger Huerta a few years back.
bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Dec 13, 2009 3:13pm
Well everyone has some percentage of chance against an opponent but I would say Maynard has a 9 percent chance of beating Penn lol.
BuckeyeBlue
Posts: 561
Dec 13, 2009 3:22pm
I just don't see Maynard winning anyway other than catching BJ and knocking him out (which is pretty difficult to do). BJ has fought people that are better in all facets of the game than Maynard, and made them look stupid.
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Dec 13, 2009 4:29pm
BJ Has yet to even be knocked down
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Doodle3451
Posts: 58
Dec 13, 2009 4:33pm
You know Knocked down = knocked out right?sportchampps wrote: BJ Has yet to even be knocked down
BuckeyeBlue
Posts: 561
Dec 13, 2009 4:47pm
There's a big difference in being knocked down and knocked out. Fighters often recover from being knocked down. When you're knocked out the fight is over (see Michael Bisping v. Dan Henderson for a great example).
bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Dec 13, 2009 4:49pm
He has incredible take down defense due to his great balance. Diego can usually take his opponent down and he failed every time last night.
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Dec 13, 2009 5:19pm
Knocked down and knocked out the same thing? Hardly not even close. In boxing if you are knocked down you get 10 seconds to recover or it's a knockout. In MMA you go down you get pounced on and the fight very well may continue!
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Dec 14, 2009 8:25am
Mir's prefight talk was 100% to get into Kongo's head, you saw what he did as soon as the fight was over, walked over to see if Kongo was physically alright and hugged him afterwards.
I'm not saying Mir is my favorite fighter, not in the least, but I like his antics 100 times better than Lesnar's.
Heck, he was even respectful of Lesnar's medical condition in the post fight interview with Rogan.
BJ is just amazing and I really don't like the guy.
Mir looked great and a fight with the Nog/Cain winner should be next.
KenFlo looked great, to be honest I'm not sure what you do with him. He's probably the 2nd best LW in the UFC but no where near BJ.
I'm not saying Mir is my favorite fighter, not in the least, but I like his antics 100 times better than Lesnar's.
Heck, he was even respectful of Lesnar's medical condition in the post fight interview with Rogan.
BJ is just amazing and I really don't like the guy.
Mir looked great and a fight with the Nog/Cain winner should be next.
KenFlo looked great, to be honest I'm not sure what you do with him. He's probably the 2nd best LW in the UFC but no where near BJ.
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Dec 14, 2009 1:03pm
WEC renewal contract with Versus calls for two live UFC events to air on Versus in 2010:
http://mmajunkie.com/news/17203/wec-versus-renewal-calls-for-two-2010-ufc-events-to-air-live-on-versus.mma
http://mmajunkie.com/news/17203/wec-versus-renewal-calls-for-two-2010-ufc-events-to-air-live-on-versus.mma
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CharlieHog
Posts: 102
Dec 14, 2009 1:09pm
Fab1b wrote: WEC renewal contract with Versus calls for two live UFC events to air on Versus in 2010:
http://mmajunkie.com/news/17203/wec-versus-renewal-calls-for-two-2010-ufc-events-to-air-live-on-versus.mma
DirecTV needs to get that deal worked out!
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Dec 14, 2009 1:24pm
I am personally surprised Zuffa hasn't brought the WEC over to Spike.
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Dec 14, 2009 1:54pm
I am personally surprised Spike isn't complaining about that contract showing UFC events on Versus.
Looks like for those 2 months that live events will be on VS I'll have to upgrade my Dish package for 1 month. I currently don't have VS but would at the next tier up.
Looks like for those 2 months that live events will be on VS I'll have to upgrade my Dish package for 1 month. I currently don't have VS but would at the next tier up.
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Dec 14, 2009 1:55pm
I wonder what the UFC will put on fight wise for the VS cards?
End of Line
Posts: 6,867
Dec 14, 2009 2:10pm
DirecTv and Comcast need to figure the contract dispute out.
j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
Dec 14, 2009 2:16pm
I heard that Shane McMahon bought a piece of UFC. Is this true?
bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Dec 14, 2009 2:20pm
^I haven't heard that but it's believable. He has the money and seems to be a smart guy. He could see that UFC has taken over the pay per view world.
I don't know why but I just can't get into the WEC anymore. Once they dropped their bigger weight classes I lost most interest. I know the little guys bring the action but I just can't get interested in 2 fighters that weigh 135 a piece lol
I don't know why but I just can't get into the WEC anymore. Once they dropped their bigger weight classes I lost most interest. I know the little guys bring the action but I just can't get interested in 2 fighters that weigh 135 a piece lol
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Dec 14, 2009 2:25pm
I love the WEC and lighter weight classes, probably just the wrestler in me!!
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Doodle3451
Posts: 58
Dec 14, 2009 2:30pm
I understand the difference...In regards to UFC's definition and the stats referring to Penn never being knocked down is referring to being knocked out.BuckeyeBlue wrote: There's a big difference in being knocked down and knocked out. Fighters often recover from being knocked down. When you're knocked out the fight is over (see Michael Bisping v. Dan Henderson for a great example).
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Dec 14, 2009 3:05pm
Actually no, because to be honest in UFC fights Penn has never been knocked down, so they aren't referring to a knock out, they are referring to being knocked down by a strike.Doodle3451 wrote:I understand the difference...In regards to UFC's definition and the stats referring to Penn never being knocked down is referring to being knocked out.BuckeyeBlue wrote: There's a big difference in being knocked down and knocked out. Fighters often recover from being knocked down. When you're knocked out the fight is over (see Michael Bisping v. Dan Henderson for a great example).
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Dec 14, 2009 3:33pm
Doodle... In the UFC Knocked out does not = Knocked down. Thanks for trying to correct me though. BJ Penn has never been knocked down in a fight and except for the GSP fight I am pretty sure he hasn't been taken down either. Penn is a beast and virtually unstoppable for now in his weight class. When he comes into a fight in shape he will win. The only exceptions to this is when he fought up weight classes. What I'm pointing out by the never been knocked down stat is that I think BJ has a pretty good chin and is gonna be hard for someone to KO him. Thats why I dont see anyone giving him much of a fight in his weight class in the UFC.