Upcoming cards with big fights listed:

UFC 119 - September 25th on PPV from Indianapolis, Indiana
Frank Mir vs. Mirko Cro Cop
Antonio Rogerio Nogueira vs. Ryan Bader
Matt Serra vs. Chris Lytle
Sean Sherk vs. Evan Dunham
Melvin Guillard vs. Jeremy Stephens
C.B. Dollaway vs. Joe Doerksen

WEC 51 - September 30th on Versus from Broomfield, Colorado
Jose Aldo (c) vs. Manny Gamburyan for Featherweight Title
Jamie Varner vs. Donald Cerrone
Miguel Torres vs. Charlie Valencia
Chan Sung Jung vs. George Roop
Leonard Garcia vs. Mark Hominick

Strikeforce: San Jose - October 9th on Showtime from San Jose, California
Nick Diaz (c) vs. K.J. Noons II for Welterweight Title
Sarah Kaufman (c) vs. Marloes Coenen for Women's Welterweight Title

UFC 120 - October 16th on PPV/Spike TV from London, England
Michael Bisping vs. Yoshihiro Akiyama
Dan Hardy vs. Carlos Condit
John Hathaway vs. Mike Pyle
Cheick Kongo vs. Travis Browne
James Wilks vs. Claude Patrick

UFC 121 - October 23rd on PPV from Anaheim, California
Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Cain Velasquez for the Heavyweight Title
Jake Shields vs. Martin Kampmann
Diego Sanchez vs. Paulo Thiago
Tito Ortiz vs. Matt Hamill
Brendan Schaub vs. Gabriel Gonzaga
Patrick Cote vs. Tom Lawlor

WEC 52 - November 11th on Versus from Las Vegas, Nevada
Urijah Faber vs. Taekya Mizugaki
Brian Bowles vs. Wagnney Fabiano
Josh Grispi vs. Erik Koch

UFC 122 - November 13th on PPV/Spike TV from Oberhausen, Germany
Nate Marquardt vs. Yushin Okami
Krzysztof Soszynski vs. Goran Reljic
Amir Sadollah vs. Peter Sobatta
Jorge Rivera vs. Alessio Sakara
Jason Brilz vs. Vladimir Matyushenko

UFC 123 - November 20th on PPV from Auburn Hills, Michigan
Rampage Jackson vs. Lyoto Machida
Matt Hughes vs. B.J. Penn III
Karo Parisyan vs. Dennis Hallman
Tyson Griffin vs. Nik Lentz
Joe Lauzon vs. George Sotiropoulos

Strikeforce: Henderson vs. Babalu - December 4th on Showtime from St. Louis, Missouri
Dan Henderson vs. Renato Sobral
Hershel Walker vs. ???

WEC 53 - December 16th on Versus from Glendale, Arizona
Ben Henderson (c) vs. Anthony Pettis for Lightweight Title

The Ultimate Fighter 12 finale - December 4th on Spike TV from Las Vegas, Nevada
Lightweight Finalist #1 vs. Lightweight Finalist #2
Kendall Grove vs. Demian Maia
Stephan Bonnar vs. Igor Pokrajac

UFC 124 - December 11th on PPV from Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Georges St-Pierre (c) vs. Josh Koscheck II for Welterweight Title
Thiago Alves vs. John Howard

UFC 125 - January 1st on PPV from Las Vegas, Nevada
(c) Anderon Silva vs. Vitor Belfort for Middleweight Title
Thiago Silva vs. Brandon Vera

UFC 126 - January, 2011 on PPV from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
(None listed yet)

UFC 127 - February 5th on PPV from Las Vegas, Nevada
(None listed yet)

Leben vs Stann at UFC 125.

Upcoming cards with big fights listed:

UFC 119 - September 25th on PPV from Indianapolis, Indiana
Frank Mir vs. Mirko Cro Cop
Antonio Rogerio Nogueira vs. Ryan Bader
Matt Serra vs. Chris Lytle
Sean Sherk vs. Evan Dunham
Melvin Guillard vs. Jeremy Stephens
C.B. Dollaway vs. Joe Doerksen

WEC 51 - September 30th on Versus from Broomfield, Colorado
Jose Aldo (c) vs. Manny Gamburyan for Featherweight Title
Jamie Varner vs. Donald Cerrone
Miguel Torres vs. Charlie Valencia
Chan Sung Jung vs. George Roop
Leonard Garcia vs. Mark Hominick

Strikeforce: San Jose - October 9th on Showtime from San Jose, California
Nick Diaz (c) vs. K.J. Noons II for Welterweight Title
Sarah Kaufman (c) vs. Marloes Coenen for Women's Welterweight Title
Tyron Woodley vs. Andre Galvao

UFC 120 - October 16th on PPV/Spike TV from London, England
Michael Bisping vs. Yoshihiro Akiyama
Dan Hardy vs. Carlos Condit
John Hathaway vs. Mike Pyle
Cheick Kongo vs. Travis Browne
James Wilks vs. Claude Patrick

UFC 121 - October 23rd on PPV from Anaheim, California
Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Cain Velasquez for the Heavyweight Title
Jake Shields vs. Martin Kampmann
Diego Sanchez vs. Paulo Thiago
Tito Ortiz vs. Matt Hamill
Brendan Schaub vs. Gabriel Gonzaga
Patrick Cote vs. Tom Lawlor

WEC 52 - November 11th on Versus from Las Vegas, Nevada
Urijah Faber vs. Taekya Mizugaki
Brian Bowles vs. Wagnney Fabiano
Josh Grispi vs. Erik Koch

UFC 122 - November 13th on PPV/Spike TV from Oberhausen, Germany
Nate Marquardt vs. Yushin Okami
Krzysztof Soszynski vs. Goran Reljic
Amir Sadollah vs. Peter Sobatta
Jorge Rivera vs. Alessio Sakara
Jason Brilz vs. Vladimir Matyushenko

UFC 123 - November 20th on PPV from Auburn Hills, Michigan
Rampage Jackson vs. Lyoto Machida
Matt Hughes vs. B.J. Penn III
Karo Parisyan vs. Dennis Hallman
Tyson Griffin vs. Nik Lentz
Joe Lauzon vs. George Sotiropoulos

Strikeforce: Henderson vs. Babalu - December 4th on Showtime from St. Louis, Missouri
Dan Henderson vs. Renato Sobral
Hershel Walker vs. ???
Scott Smith vs. Jesse Finney

WEC 53 - December 16th on Versus from Glendale, Arizona
Ben Henderson (c) vs. Anthony Pettis for Lightweight Title

The Ultimate Fighter 12 finale - December 4th on Spike TV from Las Vegas, Nevada
Lightweight Finalist #1 vs. Lightweight Finalist #2
Kendall Grove vs. Demian Maia
Stephan Bonnar vs. Igor Pokrajac

UFC 124 - December 11th on PPV from Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Georges St-Pierre (c) vs. Josh Koscheck II for Welterweight Title
Thiago Alves vs. John Howard

UFC 125 - January 1st on PPV from Las Vegas, Nevada
Anderon Silva (c) vs. Vitor Belfort for Middleweight Title
Thiago Silva vs. Brandon Vera
Chris Leben vs. Brian Stann

UFC 126 - January, 2011 on PPV from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
(None listed yet)

UFC 127 - February 5th on PPV from Las Vegas, Nevada
(None listed yet)

I Wear Pants;493413 wrote:Belfort isn't hurt. He's fighting Anderson for the title.

Okami/Marquart is now happening.

I stand corrected, I thought the story I read said Belfort was hurt.

The_Crosby_Show;493457 wrote:Belfort doesn't deserve a title shot at 185. He's never fought at MW and hell he had a hard time cutting down to 195.

I just don't feel he's done enough to earn a shot.

That is not true.

He fought Terry Martin and Matt Lindland at MW in Affliction. The catch weight of 195 for Franklin's fight was picked by Franklin because he was making the transition up to 205.

^^^My bad.

I still feel that he doesn't deserve a shot.

The_Crosby_Show;494470 wrote:^^^My bad.

I still feel that he doesn't deserve a shot.

He may or may not, but right now, at 185, who besides Sonnen does deserve a title shot?

Silva has cleaned everyone out except for Okami and Belfort, and Okami lost his "chance" when he got demolished by Sonnen.

I understand that Okami and Marquardt are fighting and winner get a chance, which is fine since both of their last losses was to Sonnen who now has a "*" next to his name.

But other than Okami, who at 185 has a legit argument for a title shot?

My only other thought is possibly Demian Maia...maybe put him in the mix after these next two fights go down.

NWIndianNation01;494499 wrote:My only other thought is possibly Demian Maia...maybe put him in the mix after these next two fights go down.

I'm a huge Maia fan, but he got destroyed by Marquardt and Silva made him look retarded. As much as I hated Silva for that "fight", Maia had no answer for him.

Maia needs to become a much better wrestler so he can get the fight into his world to become a title contender again.

Maia is below Belfort, Okami, Marquardt at this time.

Is Stann cutting to 185 to fight Leben? Or is Leben nutting up and going up to 205 to fight Stann? Either way thats a stand up war

I am pretty sure Stann was already making the move to 185

I think Fab is right, Stann already planned on going 185.

Yeah Stann is going to 185.

Belfort needs to fight either Okami or Marquardt. Is 185 the worst divison in the UFC? Depth wise?

The_Crosby_Show;495066 wrote:Yeah Stann is going to 185.

Belfort needs to fight either Okami or Marquardt. Is 185 the worst divison in the UFC? Depth wise?

I think its HW, I think MW looks like it has no depth because of how Silva has made them all look retarded.

I actually think depth wise, in the UFC, it goes like this..

LW-so many top tier fighters
LHW-see above, its hard to pick if LW or LHW is better
WW-real close to MW, but WW has more 2nd/3rd tier fighters
MW-plenty of good fighters and a couple top tier
HW-more top tier fighters than MW, but after that the cupboard is bare.

I think boxers need to just quit boxing, get trained in MMA and then try to get into the UFC (not the Toney route). Maybe this would provide better talent in all levels.

NWIndianNation01;495335 wrote:I think boxers need to just quit boxing, get trained in MMA and then try to get into the UFC (not the Toney route). Maybe this would provide better talent in all levels.

Just train in MMA is easy to say, but you can't learn decades of wrestling in a year or so. Like it or not, wrestling dominates MMA, a wrestler can determine where the fight goes. If they want to keep it standing, they can and will. If they want the fight on the ground, they will get it there.

The only way a boxer could come in and do well is if they trained a crap ton of BJJ to make a wrestler think twice about taking it to the ground.

A boxer would have to be a BJJ black belt to beat nearly any average MMA guy.

Wrestling skills take a while to learn because so much of it is feel and instincts. Just knowing how to control your hips and positioning. Really subtle things that you don't pick up until after you've been doing it for at least a few years.

It's why it's a bit easier to go from wrestling to BJJ or something because you already know how to position yourself and control your opponent's position.

I just say that because it seems like an easy source of fighters...

NWIndianNation01;495504 wrote:I just say that because it seems like an easy source of fighters...

I would love to see Mayweather take on Aldo

NWIndianNation01;495504 wrote:I just say that because it seems like an easy source of fighters...

It would be, unfortunately due to the fact that top tier boxers (Mayweather, etc) get paid much more than top tier MMA guys, and the fact that boxers would get killed in the UFC, you won't see it happen anytime soon (at least a lot of them coming over).

IWP is right, its so much easier to go from wrestling to BJJ than the other way around.

My kid is only 7, has wrestled for 2 years, and with zero BJJ experience went and won a BJJ tournament against kids that have been doing BJJ for a year or more.

His BJJ experience was 20-30 minutes of me teaching him a couple moves that are "different" than wrestling and the different rules.

Even the big "grappling" tournaments like NAGA are usually dominated by wrestlers who have some submission/BJJ experience rather than guys with a ton of BJJ experience.

And this is coming from someone who likes BJJ better than wrestling. I only wrestled for 2 years back in school but have trained BJJ for the last couple years as well.

Anyone getting the ppv tonight? I'm debating on whether it's a buy or internet watch.

bigdaddy2003;496639 wrote:Anyone getting the ppv tonight? I'm debating on whether it's a buy or internet watch.

B-Dubs here... not big enough, IMO to buy. Might as well take the lady out for the night, haha.

I'll be getting 121, 123, and 124 for sure.

Lol yeah I will probably just catch it online. I will be getting the ones you named for sure also.

I'm really sick and cant make it to bw3s tonight can someone private message me a link so i can watch it from bed tonight

anyone watching the fights online