GoPens
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Jan 23, 2012 7:56pm
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Tiernan
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Jan 24, 2012 8:32am
much better than subscribing to the "just because somebody is employed for 60 yrs at the same place he must be a wonderful person" philosophy.lhslep134;1063363 wrote:You obviously subscribe to the 'ignorance is bliss' philosophy.
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vball10set
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Jan 24, 2012 9:59am
http://www.elevenwarriors.com/node
MEYER ON PATERNO. It never gets easier thinking about the fact the Joe Paterno is gone. Fired just 10 days after his record 409th win, arguably the greatest coach in college football history lived his final days in shame after being ousted amid the Penn State sex-abuse scandal.But if you ask Urban Meyer what he'll remember about Paterno, he would tell you about the mentor, friend, and coach. In a Cleveland Plain Dealer article, Meyer called Paterno "one of his closest friends" and that the greatest lesson he ever learned from Paterno was to "always do right." Meyer even went on to call Paterno the greatest head coach of all time.
It's certainly disturbing that a man of Paterno's stature had his legacy ruined by such a terrible scandal. Much like Woody Hayes is remembered as a great football coach who did great things for his community, people also still remember how he punched a player. People will always remember all the good Paterno has done, but people will remember why he was ousted just as well.
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Tiernan
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Jan 24, 2012 3:53pm
I keep hearing about all these great things Joe Pa did for his community - granted he did win alot of football games and that does transcend into a positive feeling for the community...but what other "great" things did he do? And don't tell me he donated so many millions to the University, while admirable, it also served him well personally tax wise. I'm not trying to be an ass here but I'm really curious about all the "great" deeds he is supposed to have done.
DeyDurkie5
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Jan 24, 2012 4:00pm
read my link...just one of the storiesTiernan;1064316 wrote:I keep hearing about all these great things Joe Pa did for his community - granted he did win alot of football games and that does transcend into a positive feeling for the community...but what other "great" things did he do? And don't tell me he donated so many millions to the University, while admirable, it also served him well personally tax wise. I'm not trying to be an ass here but I'm really curious about all the "great" deeds he is supposed to have done.
Skyhook79
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Jan 24, 2012 10:53pm
He obviously didn't do anything "great" since you keep hearing about them.:rolleyes:Tiernan;1064316 wrote:I keep hearing about all these great things Joe Pa did for his community - granted he did win alot of football games and that does transcend into a positive feeling for the community...but what other "great" things did he do? And don't tell me he donated so many millions to the University, while admirable, it also served him well personally tax wise. I'm not trying to be an ass here but I'm really curious about all the "great" deeds he is supposed to have done.
Terry_Tate
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Jan 24, 2012 11:35pm
Tiernan;1064316 wrote:And don't tell me he donated so many millions to the University, while admirable, it also served him well personally tax wise.
Lol, it's not like he got a full credit for what he donated. It was still a LOT of money out of his pocket if it was in the millions.
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Tiernan
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Jan 25, 2012 9:36am
Did he read books to blind kids? Did he deliver meals to the elderly? Did he do volunteer time at a Homeless shelter? Did he serve food at a soup kitchen? No...I can't find any evidence he did anything remotely like any of those other than he "donated" money to the University. But Matt Millen said at least a dozen times on ESPN yesterday he did many "great" things for his community. But not one single person has been able to say what those "great" things were. All said and done he was a good football coach who won alot of games just because he was in the right place to stay a very long time. But his legacy is forever tarnished by what he failed to to do to protect kids in his community. THAT would have been a "great" thing.
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vball10set
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Jan 25, 2012 10:17am
^^Where is it stated that everytime anybody does anything good that it must be documented somewhere? Charitable contributions are the best was to 'give back' to a community, and these are a matter of public record, which is why they stand out when you research Paterno and what he did for the PSU community.
Joe Paterno got what he deserved with his firing, which, IMO, is the worst punishment a man of his tenure can receive. However, he did do a lot of good for the university, and that can't be denied.
Joe Paterno got what he deserved with his firing, which, IMO, is the worst punishment a man of his tenure can receive. However, he did do a lot of good for the university, and that can't be denied.
Skyhook79
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Jan 25, 2012 10:51am
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Tiernan
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Jan 25, 2012 12:39pm
OK he gave millions to different Charities over the years... now we know what "great" things he did.
LJ
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Jan 25, 2012 12:42pm
have you given millions to charities?Tiernan;1065164 wrote:OK he gave millions to different Charities over the years... now we know what "great" things he did.
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Tiernan
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Jan 25, 2012 12:49pm
I was actually being serious. I didn't know he had given to so many different charities over the years. That is a worthwhile accomplishment.
Skyhook79
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Jan 25, 2012 1:29pm
Lets keep in mind also that Paterno wasn't making a huge salary he never did at Penn State in comparison. I know he made some other money but he is not high on the lists and he still gave a ton of money away.
http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/39131/a-look-at-big-ten-head-coaches-salaries
http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/39131/a-look-at-big-ten-head-coaches-salaries
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centralbucksfan
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Jan 25, 2012 2:10pm
This.DeyDurkie5;1063158 wrote:joe pa didn't rape the kids, simple as that.
Great man in my opinion.
http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/7492873/rick-reilly-paterno-true-legacy
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centralbucksfan
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Jan 25, 2012 2:12pm
Oh please. Could he have done more? Absolutely. But again, we dont' know the exact details. He reported it. At that point, he possibly thought it was looked into, and nothing came of it. We don't know, nor will we ever know exactly what went on. Obviously, someone dropped the ball, big time. Yes, he is at fault. But please, next time you walk across water, let me know so I can come watch.Tiernan;1063171 wrote:He didn't stick it in but he allowed a monster access to stick it in more kids for another 12 yrs at least.
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Summa
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Jan 25, 2012 4:23pm
Coach Paterno was a good man in my opinion and the facts we know to date about this whole ugly situation do not change my opinion. People really need to look at the actual facts of the case. I am about as big of a Buckeye fan as one can be but I always liked Paterno and pulled for him unless the Buckeyes were playing Penn State of course. The things I have seen posted about a good man by some Ohio State fans and others who are not Ohio State fans are beyond classless. Let the man rest in peace. He did more good and affected more people in a positive way than anyone on this board or any other board will ever do in their lives.
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vball10set
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Jan 25, 2012 5:06pm
Thanks, and btw, how's your brother Magna doing?Summa;1065506 wrote:Coach Paterno was a good man in my opinion and the facts we know to date about this whole ugly situation do not change my opinion. People really need to look at the actual facts of the case. I am about as big of a Buckeye fan as one can be but I always liked Paterno and pulled for him unless the Buckeyes were playing Penn State of course. The things I have seen posted about a good man by some Ohio State fans and others who are not Ohio State fans are beyond classless. Let the man rest in peace. He did more good and affected more people in a positive way than anyone on this board or any other board will ever do in their lives.
Crimson streak
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Jan 26, 2012 3:12pm
Phil knight with a pretty damn good speech at the joe pa memorial. He pretty much trashed the higher ups at penn st and the media lol
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vball10set
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Jan 26, 2012 3:16pm
I'd love to see it--do you happen to have a link to it handy?Crimson streak;1066693 wrote:Phil knight with a pretty damn good speech at the joe pa memorial. He pretty much trashed the higher ups at penn st and the media lol
Crimson streak
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Jan 26, 2012 3:26pm
I don't it's on espn
Crimson streak
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Jan 26, 2012 3:33pm
I still love the interview where he said he would punch president Nixon in the face lol
Skyhook79
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Jan 26, 2012 6:15pm
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vball10set
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Jan 26, 2012 7:09pm
thanks--that was excellentSkyhook79;1066939 wrote:http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7507069&categoryid=2564308
Dr Winston O'Boogie
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Jan 30, 2012 10:19am
It would have been nice had Phil Knight acknowledged the life long suffering and shame that will be carried by the children that were raped in the Penn State locker room. It would also had been nice if he would have explained why Paterno co-existed in this facility with a witnessed pedophile until only a few months ago. His decision to do the bare minimum as was required as opposed to what was right (a lesson he seemingly preached to everyone who came within his orbit) were not "blips on a screen". Children were repeatedly raped under his watch. Lives were ruined. And the only reasonable conclusion was the he didn't want any rocking of the USS Paterno to ensue.
I acknowledge he did good things in his career. But I'll be damned if I'm going buy into the "persecution of Joe" cult that has arisen. What he failed to do (regardless of his reasons) is reprehensible and disgusting.
I acknowledge he did good things in his career. But I'll be damned if I'm going buy into the "persecution of Joe" cult that has arisen. What he failed to do (regardless of his reasons) is reprehensible and disgusting.