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Jan 18, 2012 4:54 AM
Oh yes, the "your brain is small you cannot comprehend how powerful God is".

Go stick your head in the sand please.
Jan 17, 2012 11:54pm
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Jan 18, 2012 4:54 AM
HitsRus;1056634 wrote:Oh, you pseudo intellectuals who try to debunk spiritualism by attacking the man made elements of religion....like your freakin' finite minds are the pinnacle of evolution capable of disproving something beyond your 5 senses. You are a pimple of cells on a small planet circling a third rate star 2/3 of the way out from the center of one galaxy among millions of galaxies. Religion is about connection, and to that end, all that is important, is that you find your connection. It isn't about logic, it's about relationship. That you don't get it is nobody's loss but your own.
I think the massivity of the universe and such more disproves religion than proves it.

And in case you weren't reading, I am suggesting that all elements of religion are man made. Which parts aren't?
Jan 17, 2012 11:54pm
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Jan 18, 2012 4:55 AM
Sleeper hates all religions and pretty much people in general, oh my bad just all minorities. I highly doubt he has any relationships other than those here on the OC.
Jan 17, 2012 11:55pm
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Jan 18, 2012 4:55 AM
DeyDurkie5;1056633 wrote:I wear pants, next time don't post such a long ass picture...what the fuck is that shit
Just get a 20 ft tall monitor. Duh.

Does the site not scale that shit down?
Jan 17, 2012 11:55pm
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Jan 18, 2012 4:56 AM
rmolin73;1056643 wrote:Sleeper hates all religions and pretty much people in general, oh my bad just all minorities. I highly doubt he has any relationships other than those here on the OC.
He is not a student and therefore could not have relations with any of the pervert teachers on the OC.
Jan 17, 2012 11:56pm
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Jan 18, 2012 4:56 AM
I Wear Pants;1056642 wrote: And in case you weren't reading, I am suggesting that all elements of religion are man made. Which parts aren't?
Good question. Cue the "Only God knows" or some other equally elitist statement or fallacy.
Jan 17, 2012 11:56pm
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Jan 18, 2012 4:57 AM
My whole thing with religion is this...you tell someone some ridiculous claim, and they immediately say prove it. At that point, you have to prove what you just claimed to be true. When it comes to religion, you tell someone to prove it and they use the "you just have to have faith" card. Jesus might have been real, and he might have done some wonderful things, but imo you are kidding yourself if he parted seas, cured uncurable sickness from nothing, etc back in those times. He was most likely a great bullshitter and a great speaker.
Jan 17, 2012 11:57pm
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Jan 18, 2012 4:58 AM
I Wear Pants;1056644 wrote:Just get a 20 ft tall monitor. Duh.

Does the site not scale that shit down?
I don't know, but it caused my shit to slow down
Jan 17, 2012 11:58pm
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Jan 18, 2012 4:59 AM
rmolin73;1056643 wrote:Sleeper hates all religions and pretty much people in general, oh my bad just all minorities. I highly doubt he has any relationships other than those here on the OC.
I don't hate minorities. Thanks for playing.
Jan 17, 2012 11:59pm
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Jan 18, 2012 5:01 AM
DeyDurkie5;1056651 wrote:I don't know, but it caused my shit to slow down
Sorry. I'll remove it and just link it.
Jan 18, 2012 12:01am
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Jan 18, 2012 5:02 AM
When I wear pants and sleeper are in agreement on something I am pretty sure they are wrong, actually when anyone is in agreement with sleeper I am pretty sure they are wrong.
Jan 18, 2012 12:02am
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Jan 18, 2012 5:04 AM
sleeper being an asshole doesn't make him ad hoc incorrect.

This quote pretty much sums up my feelings: “Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.”

There isn't a just god that would punish a person for not believing if they were a good person so I don't see the point in bothering with worship when you can just be a good person. And you thusly minimize the risk of wasting an enormous portion of your life only to be pissed when you die. Well no you won't be pissed when you die you'll just be dead so I guess whatever.
Jan 18, 2012 12:04am
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Jan 18, 2012 5:05 AM
Skyhook79;1056661 wrote:When I wear pants and sleeper are in agreement on something I am pretty sure they are wrong, actually when anyone is in agreement with sleeper I am pretty sure they are wrong.
prove prayer works skyhook..until you can do that, you are wrong.
Jan 18, 2012 12:05am
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Jan 18, 2012 5:06 AM
DeyDurkie5;1056670 wrote:prove prayer works skyhook..until you can do that, you are wrong.
I already did on page 1.
Jan 18, 2012 12:06am
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Jan 18, 2012 5:10 AM
Skyhook79;1056673 wrote:I already did on page 1.
exactly...carry on old man
Jan 18, 2012 12:10am
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Jan 18, 2012 5:13 AM
Skyhook79;1056673 wrote:I already did on page 1.
Ah yes the "you are entirely wrong but I can't be bothered to actually discuss or debate with you".
Jan 18, 2012 12:13am
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Jan 18, 2012 5:24 AM
I think the massivity of the universe and such more disproves religion than proves it.
Again ...your beef is with religion (as evidenced by that gargantuan post) which is but a conduit for a connection. Some religions work for some people others need something different. But I think it is ludicrous that someone asks "why do you pray?" ..and says "I won't attack you"...and then proceeds to do just that.
In all seriousness...if you and sleeper are going to worship Ron Paul, maybe you guys should embrace the spirit of the constitution on matters of religion.
Jan 18, 2012 12:24am
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Jan 18, 2012 5:26 AM
HitsRus;1056695 wrote:Again ...your beef is with religion (as evidenced by that gargantuan post) which is but a conduit for a connection. Some religions work for some people others need something different. But I think it is ludicrous that someone asks "why do you pray?" ..and says "I won't attack you"...and then proceeds to do just that.
In all seriousness...if you and sleeper are going to worship Ron Paul, maybe you guys should embrace the spirit of the constitution on matters of religion.
The constitution allows for freedom of religion. Which I'm totally for. But it does not in anyway endorse religion nor did our founders intend for our country to endorse any religion.
Jan 18, 2012 12:26am
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Jan 18, 2012 5:31 AM
HitsRus;1056695 wrote:Again ...your beef is with religion (as evidenced by that gargantuan post) which is but a conduit for a connection. Some religions work for some people others need something different. But I think it is ludicrous that someone asks "why do you pray?" ..and says "I won't attack you"...and then proceeds to do just that.
In all seriousness...if you and sleeper are going to worship Ron Paul, maybe you guys should embrace the spirit of the constitution on matters of religion.
I've never attacked anyone until I was being attacked. I believe in the Golden Rule, something Ron Paul endorses. I do embrace the constitution, but I believe 100% in the separation of church and state.
Jan 18, 2012 12:31am
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Jan 18, 2012 5:34 AM
The constitution allows for freedom of religion.
embrace that spirit.
Jan 18, 2012 12:34am
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Jan 18, 2012 5:36 AM
HitsRus;1056705 wrote:embrace that spirit.
Like I said, only believers like to bring up their entitlement to their belief because they are wrong and they know it.
Jan 18, 2012 12:36am
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Jan 18, 2012 5:38 AM
HitsRus;1056705 wrote:embrace that spirit.
Who in this thread has said you are not free to believe or worship as you want?
Jan 18, 2012 12:38am
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Jan 18, 2012 5:40 AM
HitsRus;1056695 wrote: maybe you guys should embrace the spirit of the constitution on matters of religion.
embrace something written 300 years ago...that's almost as bad as embracing hte bible, written 2000 years ago! Do you think the world is flat? LOL
Jan 18, 2012 12:40am
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Jan 18, 2012 5:43 AM
Also the fact that churches are allowed non-profit status, I think that leaves believers and their institution open for unlimited criticism.
Jan 18, 2012 12:43am
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Jan 18, 2012 5:56 AM
sleeper;1056524 wrote:So your choice was either believe in what they believe or don't believe.

I suppose that's better than nothing, despite me not believing your story. Once the light of logic is seen, its extremely rare for someone to return to the neverneverland.

What dont you believe? That my brother doesn't believe or what?
Jan 18, 2012 12:56am